[ppml] rubber/road

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Heather Schiller [mailto:heather.schiller at verizonbusiness.com]
>Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:45 PM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: Public Policy Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [ppml] rubber/road
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>On Thu, 31 May 2007, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of
>>> Jeroen Massar
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:48 PM
>>> To: Randy Bush
>>> Cc: Public Policy Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [ppml] rubber/road
>>>
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>>>>  how much will it cost me in two years?
>>>
>>> The amount that is the most of either your IPv4 or the IPv6 one.
>>> See a couple of days back where somebody disclosed that.
>>>
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>> In 2 years a policy could be submitted and
>> approved that would radically raise prices on the IPv6 block and
>> require you to pay for both blocks.  As long as both allocations
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>ARIN fees are NOT set by the public policy process.

Totally beside the point.  OK you are right, happy now?  I'll adjust it
to:

"...In 2 years the Board of Trustees who set the fee structure could
radically raise prices on the IPv6 block..."

>
>Why don't you live in fear of getting 'jacked' on v4?

Who said I didn't? ;-)

>The same people who
>set the fees for v6 are the ones who set the fees for v4.
>
>>
>> this is why I suggested a while ago that IPv6 automatically be allocated
>> to all paying IPv4 holders.  If the IP registration fee was a lump
>> sum that covered both IPv6 and IPv4 allocations, it would be more
>> difficult down the road for a price raise on IPv6 to get through.
>> (Since that would not exist as a separate 'product' of a RIR)
>>
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>You are combining 2 issues that aren't necesarrily related, fees and
>allocation policy.  The billing structure for v4/v6 doesn't change the
>merits of an allocation policy of everyone who has v4 today automagically
>get v6.  BoT could change the fee structure to have a combined v6/v4 fee
>based on organization so that the fee is reduced, but I still wouldn't
>want to see a 'if you have v4, here's your v6' policy.
>

It's going to be a moot issue anyway eventually.  When the day comes that
nobody wants IPv4 anymore, then IPv6 will BECOME plain old "IP".  So,
despite
all your kicking and screaming, one day we WILL have a "if you have v4,
here's your v6"
"policy"

Kind of like if I have CAT-5 Ethernet, I automatically "have" 10Base2
ethernet if
I want to go pick an old thinnet spool out of someones garbage dump.

Ted