[ppml] getting converts to V6

[Lee Dilkie]

David Conrad wrote:
> Lee,
>
> On May 20, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Lee Dilkie wrote:
>   
>> "You" refers to producers of IP address space, in this case ARIN and
>> ARIN's members, the ISPs. I'm not included in that list as I am not an
>> ARIN member and as I've been made painfully aware, not entitled to
>> making policy decisions.
>>     
>
> As an individual, no, you are not entitled to make policy decisions.   
> You are not Lord God Emperor of the Internet (at least as far as I am  
> aware).  You are, however, like everyone else entitled to participate  
> in the policy making process.
>   
Never said I was, never tried to make policy decisions. Where did I give
that impression?
I'm happy to hear that I do have the right to participate in the
process, that was something I didn't know.
>   
>> If all the dire predictions are true, the producers will be out of  
>> a job
>> unless they can convince the consumers to switch to the new address
>> space.
>>     
>
> Not really.  The RIRs business models will change and they may look  
> very differently than what they look like now, but the lack of IPv4  
> address space does not automatically imply they will be "out of a job".
>   
Fair enough. When I said "out of a job" I meant "with no more addresses
to give out, they will be out looking for other ways to continue, as
it's rare that anyone simply closes up shop when the situation changes".
My lack of clear and concise wording is obviously my undoing.
>   
>> No offense. But the cost of assigning me a drivers license, including
>> all the testing and whatnot, is *far* less than ARIN's fees.
>>     
>
> There may be a few more people obtaining drivers licenses than there  
> are requesting blocks of addresses.
>   
And that makes it inefficient? Now that's a pretty interesting argument.
>   
>> Someone is making a boatload of money here. Or wasting a boatload.
>>     
>
> ARIN's budget is published at http://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/ 
> budget.html.  Please point to where someone is making or wasting a  
> boatload of money.
>   
URL given results in:


  Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /about_us/corp_docs/ on this server.
>   
>> Either way, my original statement stands.
>>     
>
> Your original statement remains a demonstration of ignorance.
>   
Thanks for pointing that out, David. I feel so very welcome when I post
to this list and folks like you are so polite with my mistakes.
> Rgds,
> -drc
>
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