[ppml] Incentive to legacy address holders

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dean Anderson [mailto:dean at av8.com]
>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 8:23 PM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: John Santos; ppml at arin.net
>Subject: Re: [ppml] Incentive to legacy address holders
>
>
>On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>> 
>> Face the facts.  Your getting something for nothing.  Your getting
>> tracking and visibility in a system you aren't paying for - in fact,
>> in a system that -I'm- paying for.  (or more accurately, my employer,
>> who due to paying for this system has less money he can pay me, and
>> so forth)  You certainly don't seem appreciative of this.
>
>Because its not true. Legacy holders established the Internet. We took
>the risks to career and business to get things to where you are, just
>like the homesteaders of the 1800s. You are a latecomer, and deserve to
>pay more to benefit from our efforts.  You're buying into a phase 3
>development. (low risk, established)
>

That sounds perfectly fair to me.  Now, let's talk about how long
the latecomers are expected to pay extra. 

You see the problem isn't that the latecomers are paying extra.  The
problem is that they are paying extra and some of the homesteaders expect
the situation to continue FOREVER.

>Homesteaders in the 19th century took large risks. Now, farmland is
>about ~$3k per acre.  Subdivided housing developments go for multiples
>more. Maybe you notice that many of your Credit Card bills come from
>Sioux Falls, SD.  I suppose that means there are a fair number of
>transplanted New York bankers working in Sioux Falls for Citibank and
>other banks.  Are they paying more than the homesteaders?  Yes. Is that
>unfair?  No.  If they would have risked life and limb in the 1800s,
>they'd have got the same deal.  And if today those transplanted New
>Yorkers working in Sioux Falls began talking against the property rights
>of homesteaded families, do you think there would be some quick
>problems? You bet. The homesteaded families risked life and limb to
>survive, settle the territory, establish rule of law, and make it
>livable so companies like Citibank could move in and make a profit.  
>The only benefit they got from that risk and effort was the thrill,
>adventure, and cheap property.
>

And many of the homesteaders did in fact sell land and make a big chunk
which after they died the inhertance taxes took quite a bit away.
This is in the US, of course.  In some other countries they seem to like to
encourage descendents of roya-- I mean rich people, to be supported
forever.

>Likewise, the Internet is here because of the efforts and risks of
>Legacy holders.  You don't seem appreciative of that.

I would think that getting a free ride for so long is a good expression of
appreciation by the community?

On a personal level, I've been doing my part far longer than I've been
working for my current employer who is also doing it's part.

Ted