[ppml] ARIN member in good standing?

[Aaron Dudek]

ARIN cannot enforce routing policy to the ISPs. They can ask and hope the 
ISPs will comply. ARIN has no hold over any ISP who depends on another 
RIR.
>From what I understand, if a member falls out of good standing, then they 
can no longer get any services from ARIN including IPs, transfers, etc.
With IPv6, why would anyone need too?
I think I may have pulled this out of scope of the original discussion.

Aaron Dudek
(703) 689-6879
Sprintlink Engineering
adudek at sprint.net


On Thu, 28 Sep 2006, Michael.Dillon at btradianz.com wrote:

>> What happens when ARIN can no longer contact them or if they have
> decided
>> to cut contact with ARIN?
>
> Now you are asking a more general question unrelated
> to 2006-2. If ARIN issues AS numbers or IP addresses
> to an organization and that organization ceases to
> pay ARIN subscription fees then that organization is
> failing to fulfil its social contract with the ARIN
> community. Many organizations which are run by members
> have the concept of "member in good standing" and when
> a member ceases to be in good standing, either by failing
> to pay fees or for some other reason, the organization
> removes membership benefits and eventual unilateraly
> discharges the member.
>
> Does the ARIN RSA make this social contract into
> a legal contract? If not, then should it?
>
> Quite frankly, I don't have the answers but I think
> that before we can deal with the issue of organizations
> losing contact, we need to be clear on what is the
> social contract between individual numbering resource
> users and the community of numbering resource users.
> I think ARIN fairly represents the community and therefore
> if any social contract is cast into a legal contract,
> ARIN should be the legal representative of the community.
> But I don't believe that we have openly discussed this
> issue in terms of a social contract before. Many people
> believe that the recipient of numbering resources also
> acquires some obligations along with them, but we have
> not expressed this in a general and comprehensive way
> before.
>
> Today, the unspoken social contract is enforced in secret
> largely because organizations know that they will likely
> have to return to ARIN for numbering resources multiple
> times. After the migration to IPv6, most organizations
> will not need additional numbering resources from ARIN and
> unless the unspoken social contract becomes embodied in
> legal contracts and written ARIN policies, there will be
> no incentive to meet the obligations of the contract.
>
> --Michael Dillon
>
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