[ppml] Policy Proposal 2005-8: Proposal to amend ARIN IPv6 assignment and utilisation requirement - Last Call

Izumi Okutani izumi at nic.ad.jp
Tue Apr 18 02:38:42 EDT 2006


There may be a bit of misunderstanding over the issues in JP, so let me
add some words.

M & A was not raised as an issue in JP either, and it's probably quite a
rare case to consider for the proposal.

The current issues in JP are two:

 + Some impact over the existing LIRs are noted, expecially in
   terms of expenses(1/2 LIRs face additional expenses of over
   US$85,000).

 + Few LIRs LIRs expressed concerns that classless addressing will
   lose the benefit of IPv6 over IPv4.
   i.e, simplicity of network design and service specification

You can see more details in the following ppt from APNIC21.

http://www.apnic.net/meetings/21/docs/sigs/policy/policy-pres-okutani-v6-survey.pdf

I must admit that the general feeling in JP is not favourable to the
proposal at the moment, but we plan to collect more opinions from our
operaters group as well as LIRs before finally fixing our position.

I will ofcourse update the outcome of the discussions here as well.
I hope we can continue the co-ordination.

izumi
JPNIC

Randy Bush wrote:
>>>> E.g., if ISP A is dealing /52's and ISP B is dealing /56's, what
>>>> happens when ISP B buys up ISP A?  How do you merge customers used to
>>>> having /52's into a billing model that is based on /56's?
>>>
>>>so we are supposed to classfully approach pre-cidr collapse once
>>>again because someone wanted to play in the m&a game but could
>>>not build a flexible provisioning system?
>>>you're kidding, right?
>>
>>Truthfully, I don't know.  I will affirm that I am not a routing 
>>expert, but that's not an excuse.  My statement also might not have 
>>been a complete capture of the idea - it's based on my recollection, 
>>but, it is my recollection.
> 
> 
> my recollection from the apnic meeting where this was raised was
> that it did not even fly there.
> 
> randy
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