[ppml] Deaggregation in the ARIN region Was: [nanog] The Ci d r Report

[Hannigan, Martin]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net]On Behalf Of Jon
> Lewis
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 6:04 PM
> To: Owen DeLong
> Cc: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: RE: [ppml] Deaggregation in the ARIN region Was: 
> [nanog] The Ci
> dr Report
> 
> 
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Owen DeLong wrote:
> 
> > A large percentage of ARIN "members" have been to NANOG.
> 
> How sure are you about that?...especially using my loose definition of
> ARIN "members" as any network with an ASN from ARIN?  There 
> are lots of
> companies that have multihomed (and therefore gotten at least 
> an ASN so
> they can do BGP) who have no interest in going to NANOG meetings...or
> aren't even aware of them.  To my knowledge, of the 2 ISPs I've worked
> for, only the current one has ever sent anyone to a NANOG 
> meeting...and
> that was me at my request a few meetings ago when it was 
> nearby in Miami.
> Of the BGP customers I've had, I'm confident none of them 
> have been to a
> meeting...and I'd bet at least some of them don't know what NANOG is.

Almost every ISP on the CIDR report(most of the continuing problem) has been

to one or more NANOGs. Most can be found "usually" there.

>From my operator experience, this is why it seems pretty clear to me
that it's an operators responsibility to apply their routing policies 
to their customers. Extended education sessions across the country
will address 1% of the problem and I would consider it a waste of
ARIN's resources - to be honest. The web page idea is the way to
go.

[ SNIP ]