[ppml] Deaggregation in the ARIN region Was: [nanog] The Ci dr Report

[Bill Darte]

Jon is right.  Deaggregation is not a laughing matter. Its poor management
at least from a netizens point of view....

Still, you advisory below is a hoot!  I like it.

Bill Darte


Bruce Eastman said:


Maybe ARIN should add a Warning label. :)





WARNING - DANGER - READ THIS & HEED THIS!



WARNING: THIS IS NOT A TOY. THIS IP IS DESIGNED FOR USE BY EXPERIENCED
NETWORKING PERSONNEL AND IS INTENDED

 FOR USE BY AN EXPERT IN ROUTING. THESE IP'S ARE INTENDED FOR USE SOLELY
BY
SENIOR NETWORK ENGINEER TYPES

( WITH NECESSARY SAFETY EQUIPMENT ). NO OTHER USE IS INTENDED OR
RECOMMENDED. ILLEGAL TO OWN, PURCHASE OR

TRANSFER BY ANYONE OTHER THAN ARIN OR OUTSIDE THE TERMS AFOREMENTIONED.
MISUSE OR CARELESS USE MAY CAUSE

SERIOUS ROUTING DEAGGREGATION. READ OWNERS MANUAL BEFORE USING.





Bruce Eastman
Senior IP Analyst
Adelphia Communications




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Lewis" <jlewis at lewis.org>
To: "Andrew Dul" <andrew.dul at quark.net>
Cc: <ppml at arin.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ppml] Deaggregation in the ARIN region Was: [nanog] The
Cidr
Report


> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Andrew Dul wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if people in the ARIN region agreed with these
statements
> > about the ARIN region not doing enough to educate the membership
about
> > deaggregation, BGP annoucements etc...
> >
> > If ARIN were to do more what would you suggest?
> >
> > 1. More/Better online training
> > 2. Regional Training session (similar to RIPE?)
>
> Whether or not ARIN actually did any training courses, it would be
nice to
> see some info on BCPs for BGP routing in the training section of the
ARIN
> web site rather than just "how to use whois" and "how to jump through
the
> hoops to get IP space".
>
> Too many networks deaggregate their announcements for no reason simply
> because they don't realize there's any reason they shouldn't.
>
> Covering things like route filtering (i.e. not leaking provider A's
routes
> to provider B) would be nice.  Might even mention the use of routing
> registries (radb, altdb, ARIN's own one, etc.).
>
> To make a bad analogy, right now, ARIN's like a gun shop selling guns
with
> no manuals and no safety literature.  Not everyone who's buying knows
how
> to use them safely.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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