[ppml] A proposal to modify proposal 2003-9 (WHOIS and INADDR access)

[Ian Baker]

Owen,
    Absolutely.

(Speaking as someone who sought a legitimate way out of the throttle limit
;o)

DNS is, IMHO, a somewhat different proposition to the WHOIS data under
current discussion. (Sorry if that sounds in any way brash - not my
intention. As I said, newbie here..)

Regards,

Ian Baker
EMEA Support Manager
OpenConnect Systems Ltd.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com>
To: <richardj at arin.net>; <ppml at arin.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:56 PM
Subject: RE: [ppml] A proposal to modify proposal 2003-9 (WHOIS and INADDR
access)


> I don't see a need for an AUP given that the data is all publicly
> available by hammering the name servers.  Unlike the whois servers
> which can easily be throttled, the nameservers would degrade service
> to legitimate users.  Personally, I think a .tar.gz of the zone files
> would be quite adequate.  FTP and/or HTTP is fine.
>
> Owen
>
>
> --On Tuesday, June 10, 2003 17:08 -0400 Richard Jimmerson
> <richardj at arin.net> wrote:
>
> > Hello John,
> >
> >> > ftp://ftp.arin.net/pub/zones
> >> because that URL does not provide complete data and
> >> is only for a specific project, per richardj (6-6-03).
> >
> > Yes.  Information published at this location is in support
> > of the Early Registration Transfer (ERX) project.  We only
> > publish zone information there for which we are generating
> > merged zone files.  The information is there for the RIRs
> > and to allow participants from the merged zones to verify
> > that their data is getting merged properly.  As new /8s are
> > included in the ERX project, information is published to the
> > ftp directory cited above.
> >
> > Would a gz file of the reversed mapped domains that ARIN
> > manages available on an FTP site meet your needs?  Do you
> > think there should be an AUP for this?
> >
> > Richard Jimmerson
> > Director of Operations
> > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On
> >> Behalf Of John M. Brown
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:13 AM
> >> To: william at elan.net
> >> Cc: ppml at arin.net
> >> Subject: RE: [ppml] A proposal to modify proposal 2003-9
> >> (WHOIS and INADDR access)
> >>
> >>
> >> because that URL does not provide complete data and
> >> is only for a specific project, per richardj (6-6-03).
> >>
> >> research the allocated space as listed at
> >> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> >>
> >> and you will find the ftp site is missing a good chuck
> >> of space.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On
> >> > Behalf Of william at elan.net
> >> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:44 PM
> >> > To: John M. Brown
> >> > Cc: ppml at arin.net
> >> > Subject: Re: [ppml] A proposal to modify proposal 2003-9
> >> > (WHOIS and INADDR access)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Why do you need policy for providing in-addr data as bulk? I
> >> > think ARIN
> >> > already provides this all publicly as it, see
> >> > ftp://ftp.arin.net/pub/zones
> >> >
> >> > Do you need something more then
> >> > that?
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, John M. Brown wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > 3. A policy for bulk WHOIS and or ARIN INADDR access will
> >> > be published
> >> > > on
> >> > >    ARIN website as follows:
> >> > >
> >> > > "Access to the entire WHOIS or ARIN INADDR database or
> >> > large portion
> >> > > of
> >> > > it may be obtained by any organization or individual
> >> > provided that this
> >> > > organization or individual agrees in writing to ARIN WHOIS/INADDR
> >> > > Acceptable Use Policy. WHOIS or ARIN INADDR data provided
> >> under bulk
> >> > WHOIS access
> >> > > will not include any information that is marked as private.
> >> > >
> >> > > Access to WHOIS/INADDR data may be by way of:
> >> > >
> >> > > Individual WHOIS/DNS queries
> >> > >
> >> > > FTP or other type of download
> >> > >
> >> > > Hard media distribution (such as CDROM)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----
> >> > >
> >> > > Given that ARIN now has policy  2002-1 Lame In-addr,
> >> > providing access
> >> > > to the in-addr view that ARIN has would be useful for the internet
> >> > > operational and research community, and help reduce lame
> >> > issues.  This
> >> > > access would allow service providers access to the
> >> IN-ADDR tree and
> >> > > allow them to self verify what deligations they are listed as
> >> > > authoritative for.  It would allow the research community
> >> a better
> >> > > source of data for research and other activities.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > respectfully,
> >> > >
> >> > > john brown
> >> >
> >>
> >
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