[ppml] A proposal to modify proposal 2003-9 (WHOIS and INADDR access)

[Owen DeLong]

I don't see a need for an AUP given that the data is all publicly
available by hammering the name servers.  Unlike the whois servers
which can easily be throttled, the nameservers would degrade service
to legitimate users.  Personally, I think a .tar.gz of the zone files
would be quite adequate.  FTP and/or HTTP is fine.

Owen


--On Tuesday, June 10, 2003 17:08 -0400 Richard Jimmerson 
<richardj at arin.net> wrote:

> Hello John,
>
>> > ftp://ftp.arin.net/pub/zones
>> because that URL does not provide complete data and
>> is only for a specific project, per richardj (6-6-03).
>
> Yes.  Information published at this location is in support
> of the Early Registration Transfer (ERX) project.  We only
> publish zone information there for which we are generating
> merged zone files.  The information is there for the RIRs
> and to allow participants from the merged zones to verify
> that their data is getting merged properly.  As new /8s are
> included in the ERX project, information is published to the
> ftp directory cited above.
>
> Would a gz file of the reversed mapped domains that ARIN
> manages available on an FTP site meet your needs?  Do you
> think there should be an AUP for this?
>
> Richard Jimmerson
> Director of Operations
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On
>> Behalf Of John M. Brown
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:13 AM
>> To: william at elan.net
>> Cc: ppml at arin.net
>> Subject: RE: [ppml] A proposal to modify proposal 2003-9
>> (WHOIS and INADDR access)
>>
>>
>> because that URL does not provide complete data and
>> is only for a specific project, per richardj (6-6-03).
>>
>> research the allocated space as listed at
>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
>>
>> and you will find the ftp site is missing a good chuck
>> of space.
>>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net] On
>> > Behalf Of william at elan.net
>> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:44 PM
>> > To: John M. Brown
>> > Cc: ppml at arin.net
>> > Subject: Re: [ppml] A proposal to modify proposal 2003-9
>> > (WHOIS and INADDR access)
>> >
>> >
>> > Why do you need policy for providing in-addr data as bulk? I
>> > think ARIN
>> > already provides this all publicly as it, see
>> > ftp://ftp.arin.net/pub/zones
>> >
>> > Do you need something more then
>> > that?
>> >
>> > On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, John M. Brown wrote:
>> >
>> > > 3. A policy for bulk WHOIS and or ARIN INADDR access will
>> > be published
>> > > on
>> > >    ARIN website as follows:
>> > >
>> > > "Access to the entire WHOIS or ARIN INADDR database or
>> > large portion
>> > > of
>> > > it may be obtained by any organization or individual
>> > provided that this
>> > > organization or individual agrees in writing to ARIN WHOIS/INADDR
>> > > Acceptable Use Policy. WHOIS or ARIN INADDR data provided
>> under bulk
>> > WHOIS access
>> > > will not include any information that is marked as private.
>> > >
>> > > Access to WHOIS/INADDR data may be by way of:
>> > >
>> > > Individual WHOIS/DNS queries
>> > >
>> > > FTP or other type of download
>> > >
>> > > Hard media distribution (such as CDROM)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----
>> > >
>> > > Given that ARIN now has policy  2002-1 Lame In-addr,
>> > providing access
>> > > to the in-addr view that ARIN has would be useful for the internet
>> > > operational and research community, and help reduce lame
>> > issues.  This
>> > > access would allow service providers access to the
>> IN-ADDR tree and
>> > > allow them to self verify what deligations they are listed as
>> > > authoritative for.  It would allow the research community
>> a better
>> > > source of data for research and other activities.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > respectfully,
>> > >
>> > > john brown
>> >
>>
>