[arin-discuss] [arin-announce] Community Consultation: Future Direction for the ARIN Fee Schedule

[Peter//MetanetHosting.com]

i am hoping IP is obsolete by the time we have to worry about these things
this is a great discussion with opportunity to learn many perspectives
thank you all



On 10/18/2014 4:27 PM, Peter//MetanetHosting.com wrote:
> This thinking is naive.   It is very possible that even 10000 /48s 
> will not be enough for every indivdual (or robot) alive.  A big issue 
> is how the space will be wasted or applied in the real world.  There 
> is a real possibility that we may someday create many more connected 
> 'objects' than atoms spread across the earths surface with a huge % of 
> them allocated wastefully or hoarded.  This is also assuming IPs are 
> often "one shot deals" where they are wasted and cannot be used again 
> for some reason.  There are many situations today where large swaths 
> of IPv4 blocks are used once and then abandonded and hoarded by 
> companies who are accumulating millions of them through ISP and 
> resource buyouts.  The idea of IPs being a one shot deal signficantly 
> acceletates loss.
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> On 10/18/2014 7:02 AM, Morizot Timothy S wrote:
>> Peter//MetanetHosting.com wrote:
>>> True,
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>>> I think it unwise to assume there will be no shortage or hoarding.
>>> However difficult it is to foresee, the next 25 years may experience
>>> radical technological breakthroughs which may once again limit
>>> IPv6 availability and put us squarely back where we are with IPv4.
>> That actually represents a failure to grasp the scope of the mathematics involved. My non-IT physics/math son grasped it immediately when I described the problem with IPv4 and the solution.  In fact, his first question when I described the solution was why they didn't go with 2^64 instead of 2^128 since the latter represents more than the number of particles in some very large set I have to confess I don't specifically recall. When I explained it's actually 2^64 networks each capable of having up to 2^64 hosts so you never have to worry about running out of networks or space on an individual network, that made perfect sense to him.
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>> It wouldn't surprise me at all if some radical (or perhaps even incremental) technological breakthroughs made IPv6 obsolete for some reason sometime in the next 25-50 years, but it won't be because we're running out of address space.
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>> Scott
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