[arin-discuss] ARIN registration fee data (was: Status of realigning the IPv6 fee structure?)

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Thu Mar 15 17:38:34 EDT 2012


Looks to me like the current scope of the problem is limited to $406,000
in reduced revenue with an overall scope limit of $1,229,000+growth
total scope.

By that, I mean that if we simply declared /32 to be x-small and set the
fee at $1,250, the loss to ARIN in revenue from current holders 
would be limited to the 406 currently paying based on their IPv6
small status (or less) and that there is no possibility of it applying
to more than the 1,229 x-small IPv4 members (+growth) even if
everyone were to take up IPv6 resources tomorrow.

Would that be an accurate conclusion from the data, John?

If that is the total impact, then, I would actually support declaring /32
to be extra-small and would support subsequent policy to eliminate
the /36 as moot.

Owen

On Mar 15, 2012, at 1:36 PM, John Curran wrote:

> On Mar 14, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Kevin Blumberg wrote:
>> The other issue is how many ARIN members are X-Small? I haven't been able to find
>> that data. If it is somewhere please share :) 
> 
> Sorry for the delay in putting this information together...
> 
> I need to preface by noting that there is a distinct difference 
> between how many member are in a given registration services 
> category versus how many members are paying fees _because they 
> are in that category_. We charge based the larger of the IPv4 
> size and IPv6 size category fee, so many organizations with both
> resources are simply paying the generally larger IPv4 registration 
> services fees.
> 
> So, of the 4109 members with registration services, they break 
> down as following with respect to registration services size 
> category based on their IPv4 resource holdings:
> 
> x-small: 1,229   
>  small: 1,902
> medium:   625
>  large:   103
> x-large:    72
> 
> Total  = 3,931 members with IPv4 registration services. 
> 
> With respect to just their IPv6 resource holdings:
> 
> x-small:     7   (smaller than /40 - critical inf.)
>  small: 1,573   (/40 to /32)
> medium:    37   (/31 to /30)
>  large:    29   ...
> x-large:     8
> xx-large:    1
> 
> Total  = 1,655 members with IPv6 registration services.
> 
> If you want to look at the full categories or associated fees,
> go here: <https://www.arin.net/fees/fee_schedule.html>
> 
> As noted, most members are paying based on their IPv4 category,
> as their IPv6 fee is smaller.  This means that when it comes to 
> actual registration services fees billed, the distribution is
> as follows:
> 
> IPv4      
> Xtra Large  =    72
> Large       =   103
> Medium      =   625
> Small       = 1,902
> Xtra Small  =   995
> 
> IPv6
> Small       =   406    
> Medium      =     2
> Large       =     3
> XX Large    =     1
> 
> Total        = 4,109 Members with registration services.
> 
> Of the 406 members paying IPv6 small category, 234 were IPv4 
> x-small member who ended up to paying slightly more ($438) 
> in 2011 as IPv6 waiver went from 50% to %25. Rather than have
> this happen again in 2012, the Board opted to maintain the 25% 
> IPv6 fee waiver (it was originally scheduled to phase out as 
> 100/75/50/25/0 over 2008 through 2012.)  The exercise before
> all of us is to determine an appropriate long-term fee schedule
> that recognizes over time the member change from IPv4 to IPv6.
> 
> So, this is probably more a little more information than you 
> wanted, but hopefully should help with the discussion.
> 
> Thanks!
> /John
> 
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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