[arin-discuss] IPv4 allocation conundrum

[bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com]

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 08:03:24PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
> 
> On Apr 19, 2010, at 4:18 PM, bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 08:16:51PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
> >>> We had a /24 from both. Neither provider would SWIP those blocks and show
> >>> that we were assigned them. Both required the other provider to provide, in
> >>> writing, authorization for us to announce the other provider's block.
> >>> Neither provider would give a written authorization (although both required
> >>> one). We went round and round and round. The damage done to my business was
> >>> not insignificant.
> >>> 
> >> If you have a provider in the ARIN region that assigns you a block and refuses
> >> to SWIP it or put it in their RWHOIS server, you should contact ARIN. Assuming
> >> they are using ARIN issued space, the policy under which they received that
> >> space clearly states that they are required to register it accordingly. If they
> >> refuse, then, they have violated their RSA.
> > 
> > 	that might be true for a big chunk of current policy.
> > 	that is not true for all space under the ARIN management framework
> > 	and it is whitewashing to futz accuracy here.  
> > 
> Bill,
> 	It is true for EVERY provider that issued you space they received from ARIN
> as an ISP. If they received the space from ARIN, but, not as an ISP, then, ARIN should
> know about that, too, but, the issue is the reassignment, not the lack of a SWIP.
> As such, I stand by my statement.  If they received the space FROM ARIN, the
> statement holds true, as it is subject to the RSA.
> 
> Owen

	from ARIN..

Hello Bill,
 
It was nice talking with you this morning.  As promised, I have talked
with other ARIN staff members who have been with the company for longer
than me.  They have confirmed that we have had an RSA since ARIN's began
so all ARIN issued resources would be covered.
 
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	You are correct.  The discrepency is that not all IP space under
	ARIN management was issued by ARIN.  

--bill