[arin-discuss] IPv4 allocation conundrum

[Owen DeLong]

Tony,
	The ARIN policy, as written, requires them to have a much
larger chunk of space registered to them (SWIP or RWHOIS).

	It is a deficiency in the policy that does need to be addressed
in my opinion. I think it is an unintended side-effect of language
intended to accomplish a slightly different purpose.

Owen

On Apr 18, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Tony Hain wrote:

> IANAL ... but they already have public address space assigned by their
> provider. That may only be a /32, but that is still public, and it is
> assigned by their provider. It would likely help make the case if it were a
> static assignment, but dhcp is an assignment mechanism. YMMV
> 
> Tony
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-
>> bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Randy Carpenter
>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 7:56 PM
>> To: arin-discuss at arin.net
>> Subject: [arin-discuss] IPv4 allocation conundrum
>> 
>> 
>> I am working with a new customer who is in a bit of a pickle...
>> 
>> They are an ISP and VoIP provider whose upstream provider wouldn't (or
>> couldn't) give them many addresses.
>> They resorted to using NATed private IPs for most of their network,
>> which is causing problems for their end user customers.
>> 
>> Now that we are working with them, I am trying to find a solution to
>> get them public IPs. They are also soon to be multi-homed (They have 2
>> connections, but no BGP yet). As an ISP, it would be best for them to
>> have PI space.
>> 
>> The issue is that one of the requirements for getting PI space from
>> ARIN is that you are already using Public space that was assigned to
>> you from an upstream provider. I spoke with someone from ARIN who says
>> there is no way around this. The need around a /19 of space, and I
>> cannot find any way to get it for them. The upstream providers refuse
>> to give them any.
>> 
>> What can be done about this?  Would would there be a requirement of
>> already using someone else's IP space to get your own? That seems like
>> a complete waste of time, effort, money, and IPs!
>> 
>> -Randy
>> 
>> --
>> | Randy Carpenter
>> | V.P., IT Services
>> | First Network Group, Inc.
>> | RHCE
>> | (419)739-9240, x1
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>> 
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