[arin-discuss] IPv4 allocation conundrum

[Ryan Duda]

Randy,

This is one road..

1) Obtain an ASN, peer with Provider A and Provider B.
2) When the justification is there request an additional /24 from either 
provider A or provider B.
3) Have efficient utilization of the 2 /24's.
4) Request a /22 from ARIN


Ryan Duda
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Randy Carpenter wrote:
> They have a /24, but the ARIN policy states that if you need a /19, you already have to have 50% of that size already fully in use. Our specific situation is that the ISP was forced to use private IPs for purposes that should have been public to begin with.
> 
> 
> -Randy
> 
> --
> | Randy Carpenter
> | V.P., IT Services
> | First Network Group, Inc.
> | Wapakoneta, OH
> | (419)739-9240, x1
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> 
> ----- "Tony Hain" <alh-ietf at tndh.net> wrote:
> 
>> IANAL ... but they already have public address space assigned by
>> their
>> provider. That may only be a /32, but that is still public, and it is
>> assigned by their provider. It would likely help make the case if it
>> were a
>> static assignment, but dhcp is an assignment mechanism. YMMV
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-
>>> bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Randy Carpenter
>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 7:56 PM
>>> To: arin-discuss at arin.net
>>> Subject: [arin-discuss] IPv4 allocation conundrum
>>>
>>>
>>> I am working with a new customer who is in a bit of a pickle...
>>>
>>> They are an ISP and VoIP provider whose upstream provider wouldn't
>> (or
>>> couldn't) give them many addresses.
>>> They resorted to using NATed private IPs for most of their network,
>>> which is causing problems for their end user customers.
>>>
>>> Now that we are working with them, I am trying to find a solution
>> to
>>> get them public IPs. They are also soon to be multi-homed (They have
>> 2
>>> connections, but no BGP yet). As an ISP, it would be best for them
>> to
>>> have PI space.
>>>
>>> The issue is that one of the requirements for getting PI space from
>>> ARIN is that you are already using Public space that was assigned
>> to
>>> you from an upstream provider. I spoke with someone from ARIN who
>> says
>>> there is no way around this. The need around a /19 of space, and I
>>> cannot find any way to get it for them. The upstream providers
>> refuse
>>> to give them any.
>>>
>>> What can be done about this?  Would would there be a requirement of
>>> already using someone else's IP space to get your own? That seems
>> like
>>> a complete waste of time, effort, money, and IPs!
>>>
>>> -Randy
>>>
>>> --
>>> | Randy Carpenter
>>> | V.P., IT Services
>>> | First Network Group, Inc.
>>> | RHCE
>>> | (419)739-9240, x1
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