[arin-discuss] IPv4 allocation conundrum

[Randy Carpenter]

They have a /24, but the ARIN policy states that if you need a /19, you already have to have 50% of that size already fully in use. Our specific situation is that the ISP was forced to use private IPs for purposes that should have been public to begin with.


-Randy

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| Randy Carpenter
| V.P., IT Services
| First Network Group, Inc.
| Wapakoneta, OH
| (419)739-9240, x1
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----- "Tony Hain" <alh-ietf at tndh.net> wrote:

> IANAL ... but they already have public address space assigned by
> their
> provider. That may only be a /32, but that is still public, and it is
> assigned by their provider. It would likely help make the case if it
> were a
> static assignment, but dhcp is an assignment mechanism. YMMV
> 
> Tony
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-
> > bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Randy Carpenter
> > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 7:56 PM
> > To: arin-discuss at arin.net
> > Subject: [arin-discuss] IPv4 allocation conundrum
> > 
> > 
> > I am working with a new customer who is in a bit of a pickle...
> > 
> > They are an ISP and VoIP provider whose upstream provider wouldn't
> (or
> > couldn't) give them many addresses.
> > They resorted to using NATed private IPs for most of their network,
> > which is causing problems for their end user customers.
> > 
> > Now that we are working with them, I am trying to find a solution
> to
> > get them public IPs. They are also soon to be multi-homed (They have
> 2
> > connections, but no BGP yet). As an ISP, it would be best for them
> to
> > have PI space.
> > 
> > The issue is that one of the requirements for getting PI space from
> > ARIN is that you are already using Public space that was assigned
> to
> > you from an upstream provider. I spoke with someone from ARIN who
> says
> > there is no way around this. The need around a /19 of space, and I
> > cannot find any way to get it for them. The upstream providers
> refuse
> > to give them any.
> > 
> > What can be done about this?  Would would there be a requirement of
> > already using someone else's IP space to get your own? That seems
> like
> > a complete waste of time, effort, money, and IPs!
> > 
> > -Randy
> > 
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> > | Randy Carpenter
> > | V.P., IT Services
> > | First Network Group, Inc.
> > | RHCE
> > | (419)739-9240, x1
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