[arin-discuss] IPv4 allocation conundrum

[Randy Carpenter]

I am working with a new customer who is in a bit of a pickle...

They are an ISP and VoIP provider whose upstream provider wouldn't (or couldn't) give them many addresses.
They resorted to using NATed private IPs for most of their network, which is causing problems for their end user customers.

Now that we are working with them, I am trying to find a solution to get them public IPs. They are also soon to be multi-homed (They have 2 connections, but no BGP yet). As an ISP, it would be best for them to have PI space.

The issue is that one of the requirements for getting PI space from ARIN is that you are already using Public space that was assigned to you from an upstream provider. I spoke with someone from ARIN who says there is no way around this. The need around a /19 of space, and I cannot find any way to get it for them. The upstream providers refuse to give them any.

What can be done about this?  Would would there be a requirement of already using someone else's IP space to get your own? That seems like a complete waste of time, effort, money, and IPs!

-Randy

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| Randy Carpenter
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