[arin-discuss] Status of Investigations

[Brad Belton]

Chris,

 

With all due respect (if deserving) I suggest you unsubscribe if the few
emails generated by this discussion group is taxing your available
bandwidth.

 

Best,

 

 

 

Brad Belton

BelWave Communications

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From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net]
On Behalf Of Chris Gettings
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:20 PM
To: Paul Vixie; arin-discuss at arin.net
Cc: Henry Valentino
Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Status of Investigations

 

I think you folks have lost it.  You should just be suing each other.  And
if there was some grounds (and you were real, mature business people) your
lawyers you would never let you communicate this way anyway.  Your incessant
messages are not directed to the purported purpose of this list.  Get
another one instead.  I subscribed because I simply wanted to understand and
monitor what was going on with my ARIN allocation and IP addresses.

Ah! Perhaps you are trying to drive the rest of us away as part of the
conspiracy...and what is that "answer under separate cover" nonsense?
That's a smoking gun for sure....

Clearly, you are ridiculous nimrods for wasting so much of everyone's
bandwidth with your drivel.  You should be censored by the moderators.

Chris Gettings

On 1/2/08 10:58 PM, "Paul Vixie" <paul at vix.com> wrote:

> > furthermore, if the employment of former MAPS employees after leaving
> > MAPS ought to reflect on the founders of MAPS somehow, then shouldn't
> > you also do an exhaustive search to find out where every one of them
> > wound up?  (and also for every other company founded by any ARIN board
> > member?)  (or any company where an ARIN board member was an executive?)
>
> As the managing director of MAPS, you were responsible for training and
> indoctrinating these people.

there were no indoctrinations.  my biggest responsibility was setting policy
and my second biggest was making payroll happen.  while i hold
responsibility
for everything done by a MAPS employee, i don't have any control (nor would
i
want it) of what folks do after they leave my employ.  perhaps MAPS was not
the kind of company you thought it was, or perhaps the world is not the kind
of place you thought it was.

> It wasn't just one bad apple; It was two.

for all i know, scott richter hired peter and kelly with the challenge of
"please help me run a more responsible organization".  i have no knowledge,
but it sounds like you don't either, so maybe you should ask peter and
kelly?

> Did you profit from Whitehat.com?

i'll answer that under separate cover.

> > i find the quality of the investigations so far deplorably low.
>
> So far, I must agree. It is quite difficult to investigate while
stonewalled
> by Management and the Board.  The investigations would be greatly helped
if
> ARIN would respond to the questions that have been asked.  Most of the
> information so far has been gleaned from outside of ARIN.

while i don't mind answering questions sent to arin-discuss@ if it'll help
the membership determine the character of their trustees, i think that if
you
want an answer from "the board" or "management" you should direct your
inquiries to them by certified letter, perhaps even working through your
attorney who might decide to work through ARIN's attorney.
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