[arin-discuss] Status of Investigations
Chris Gettings
chris.gettings at videonext.com
Thu Jan 3 02:13:47 EST 2008
No Brad, I want to listen to the legitimate dialog on the business of ARIN.
I am entitled to that. I have had my modest allocation since 1994. But the
guy who keeps complaining about the ARIN management should just sue if he
has been harmed -- instead of burying the relevant messages for the whole
group amongst his b.s. This deprives everyone of the use of the group.
I can¹t believe I even bothered to reply to the flame I almost never do and
I apologize. I¹m stooping to the level of those characters I am complaining
about. And FYI the the high cost is to my ³personal bandwidth² to look at
the damned messages, not internet bandwidth. I have a fat pipe and plenty
of bandwidth for genuine traffic. But this topic is like spam and is not
producing any legitimate traffic for the list and I finally snapped. How
long have we ARIN list users been subjected to these messages while reading
the list in hopes of relevant information?
Brad is your page at www.belwave.com not compatible with Firefox or Safari?
None of the links for ³services² or ³support² or ³references² or ³contact
us² work. But maybe I have to use Internet Explorer only?
I see you have a /19 CIDR, same as me. How much bandwidth do you have? I
see the ³Network Status² section of your page at www.belwave.com but the
source of the page is just static HTML and the green lights that show
Belwave.com ³Network Status² are just permanently green icons
³/greenlight.gif² which are not really connected to any network reporting
that I can see.
I have posted the source of your page below where you are ³reporting the
status² of your North and South Fiber Routes. (I was able to find this with
the ³view source² command in my browsers when nothing I clicked on went
anywhere. I was amazed that my browser could do this, but it is cool
software.)
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="99%" id="table40">
<tr>
<td
width="33" align="center">
<img
border="0" src="images/greenlight.gif" width="25" height="25"></td>
<td
align="left">
<p
align="center">
<font size="1">
North
Fiber
Route</font></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td
width="33" align="center">
<img
border="0" src="images/greenlight.gif" width="25" height="25"></td>
<td
align="left">
<p
align="center">
<font size="1">
South
Fiber
Route</font></td>
</tr>
<tr>
I think the problem is that ³greenlight.gif² has to actually connect to
something or it just sits there green all the time no matter what the
www.belwave.com network is connected to. It seems that people who went there
thinking they could check the status of belwave.com are led to believe the
status is just fine, all green ‹ when actually the greenlight.gif means
nothing at all. That seems disingenuous to me or maybe I just don¹t
understand how the html stuff works.
I hate to put such a fine point on it for you Brad but those guys really
should take their dispute elsewhere and I am right to complain about it.
Thanks, and now I am sorry that everyone on the list had to listen to me
rant, too. I feel better though, just not productive.
Best,
Christopher Gettings
Chairman
VideoNEXT
703.489.6781 (mobile)
703.657.1204 (direct)
703-378-7892 (fax)
www.videoNext.com
888.876.SAFE (24x7 Support)
chris.gettings at videonext.com
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On 1/2/08 11:51 PM, "Brad Belton" <brad at belwave.com> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> With all due respect (if deserving) I suggest you unsubscribe if the few
> emails generated by this discussion group is taxing your available bandwidth.
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Brad Belton
> BelWave Communications
> O: 817-737-3124 #101
> F: 817-336-7031
>
>
>
>
> From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Chris Gettings
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:20 PM
> To: Paul Vixie; arin-discuss at arin.net
> Cc: Henry Valentino
> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Status of Investigations
>
> I think you folks have lost it. You should just be suing each other. And if
> there was some grounds (and you were real, mature business people) your
> lawyers you would never let you communicate this way anyway. Your incessant
> messages are not directed to the purported purpose of this list. Get another
> one instead. I subscribed because I simply wanted to understand and monitor
> what was going on with my ARIN allocation and IP addresses.
>
> Ah! Perhaps you are trying to drive the rest of us away as part of the
> conspiracy...and what is that ³answer under separate cover² nonsense? That¹s
> a smoking gun for sure....
>
> Clearly, you are ridiculous nimrods for wasting so much of everyone¹s
> bandwidth with your drivel. You should be censored by the moderators.
>
> Chris Gettings
>
> On 1/2/08 10:58 PM, "Paul Vixie" <paul at vix.com> wrote:
>>> > > furthermore, if the employment of former MAPS employees after leaving
>>> > > MAPS ought to reflect on the founders of MAPS somehow, then shouldn't
>>> > > you also do an exhaustive search to find out where every one of them
>>> > > wound up? (and also for every other company founded by any ARIN board
>>> > > member?) (or any company where an ARIN board member was an executive?)
>> >
>> > As the managing director of MAPS, you were responsible for training and
>> > indoctrinating these people.
>
> there were no indoctrinations. my biggest responsibility was setting policy
> and my second biggest was making payroll happen. while i hold responsibility
> for everything done by a MAPS employee, i don't have any control (nor would i
> want it) of what folks do after they leave my employ. perhaps MAPS was not
> the kind of company you thought it was, or perhaps the world is not the kind
> of place you thought it was.
>
>> > It wasn't just one bad apple; It was two.
>
> for all i know, scott richter hired peter and kelly with the challenge of
> "please help me run a more responsible organization". i have no knowledge,
> but it sounds like you don't either, so maybe you should ask peter and kelly?
>
>> > Did you profit from Whitehat.com?
>
> i'll answer that under separate cover.
>
>>> > > i find the quality of the investigations so far deplorably low.
>> >
>> > So far, I must agree. It is quite difficult to investigate while
>> stonewalled
>> > by Management and the Board. The investigations would be greatly helped if
>> > ARIN would respond to the questions that have been asked. Most of the
>> > information so far has been gleaned from outside of ARIN.
>
> while i don't mind answering questions sent to arin-discuss@ if it'll help
> the membership determine the character of their trustees, i think that if you
> want an answer from "the board" or "management" you should direct your
> inquiries to them by certified letter, perhaps even working through your
> attorney who might decide to work through ARIN's attorney.
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