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arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces@arin.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Chris Gettings<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Vixie; arin-discuss@arin.net<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Henry Valentino<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-discuss] Status of Investigations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I think you folks have lost it. You
should just be suing each other. And if there was some grounds (and you
were real, mature business people) your lawyers you would never let you
communicate this way anyway. Your incessant messages are not directed to
the purported purpose of this list. Get another one instead. I
subscribed because I simply wanted to understand and monitor what was going on
with my ARIN allocation and IP addresses.<br>
<br>
Ah! Perhaps you are trying to drive the rest of us away as part of the
conspiracy...and what is that “answer under separate cover” nonsense?
That’s a smoking gun for sure....<br>
<br>
Clearly, you are ridiculous nimrods for wasting so much of everyone’s bandwidth
with your drivel. You should be censored by the moderators.<br>
<br>
Chris Gettings<br>
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On 1/2/08 10:58 PM, "Paul Vixie" <paul@vix.com> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>> > furthermore, if the employment of
former MAPS employees after leaving<br>
> > MAPS ought to reflect on the founders of MAPS somehow, then shouldn't<br>
> > you also do an exhaustive search to find out where every one of them<br>
> > wound up? (and also for every other company founded by any ARIN
board<br>
> > member?) (or any company where an ARIN board member was an
executive?)<br>
><br>
> As the managing director of MAPS, you were responsible for training and<br>
> indoctrinating these people.<br>
<br>
there were no indoctrinations. my biggest responsibility was setting
policy<br>
and my second biggest was making payroll happen. while i hold
responsibility<br>
for everything done by a MAPS employee, i don't have any control (nor would i<br>
want it) of what folks do after they leave my employ. perhaps MAPS was
not<br>
the kind of company you thought it was, or perhaps the world is not the kind<br>
of place you thought it was.<br>
<br>
> It wasn't just one bad apple; It was two.<br>
<br>
for all i know, scott richter hired peter and kelly with the challenge of<br>
"please help me run a more responsible organization". i have no
knowledge,<br>
but it sounds like you don't either, so maybe you should ask peter and kelly?<br>
<br>
> Did you profit from Whitehat.com?<br>
<br>
i'll answer that under separate cover.<br>
<br>
> > i find the quality of the investigations so far deplorably low.<br>
><br>
> So far, I must agree. It is quite difficult to investigate while
stonewalled<br>
> by Management and the Board. The investigations would be greatly
helped if<br>
> ARIN would respond to the questions that have been asked. Most of
the<br>
> information so far has been gleaned from outside of ARIN.<br>
<br>
while i don't mind answering questions sent to arin-discuss@ if it'll help<br>
the membership determine the character of their trustees, i think that if you<br>
want an answer from "the board" or "management" you should
direct your<br>
inquiries to them by certified letter, perhaps even working through your<br>
attorney who might decide to work through ARIN's attorney.<br>
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