[ARIN-consult] Consultation on ARIN Fees on January of 2022
John Curran
jcurran at arin.net
Mon May 10 12:31:20 EDT 2021
On 10 May 2021, at 10:14 AM, Lokkak <risner at lokkak.com<mailto:risner at lokkak.com>> wrote:
This is coming from a perspective of a legacy holder, with an ASN, but no IPv6 address and entirely no desire to obtain IPv6 addresses.
James -
Thanks for the taking the time to respond to the consultation - your perspective is quite helpful.
I have /22 of legacy address space, and I plan to maintain them until such time as they are no longer routable or simply niche of "retro-computing” routing.
I’ll examine the changes one by one, starting with the transition:
Transitioning End Users from annual per-resource maintenance fees to the RSP (Registration Services Plan) Fee Schedule
I’d rather not have to migrate the the normal agreement. The included IPv6 Block Size has zero value to me. In 2017, my blocks were held with my ISP. I had to sign the LRSA 4.0 to move them into my control when that ISP closed. I don’t anticipate needing any changes or insuring any additional resources of ARIN. So the yearly fee of $125 should handle the limited labor cost my registration has for ARIN.
To be clear, ARIN operates quite a few services (including publication of the registry via Whois and RADP, reverse DNS services, IRR and RPKI services) which benefits all customers even when customers are not making requests for changes or additional resources. After the extensive fee consultation that was held in 2014 and 2015, the decision was made to recover these costs in some proportion to the number resources held, as the benefit derived by those in the community is proportional to their resources held.
We could lower base fees and charge separately for services that are optional but reflect best practices (e.g. this includes not only IPv6, but IRR and RPKI) but that doesn’t comport with our mission to support and advance the operation of the Internet - we’d effectively be creating a disincentive for network operator deployment of practices that many others simply consider good manners (e.g. MANRS - https://www.manrs.org/isps/)
Transitioning Legacy resource holders from annual per-resource maintenance fees to the RSP Fee Schedule while maintaining the annual cap of total maintenance fees (which will increase $25 per year)
For me, the yearly increase in maintenance doesn’t offer me more value nor help reduce ARIN’s costs. The costs for provide my support is minimal. It seems to be assuming everyone is taking advantage of IPv6 resources and generating additional ARIN support requirements.
Providing a temporary IPv6 fee waiver for organizations in the 3X-Small category that desire a larger address block
I’d rather see this feature removed and replaced with transitioning legacy resource holders to the RSP Fee Schedule with the annual cap of total maintenance fees increasing $25 per year. A pure legacy holder shouldn’t need to see fees increased, if they are not using IPv6 addresses.
There may be some confusion here, since the proposed fee change does exactly what you ask above - it moves “legacy resource holders to the RSP Fee Schedule with the annual cap of total maintenance fees increasing $25 per year”
Note that this fee consultation results in no change for you, as you have /22 worth of direct allocations and an ASN, and would be invoiced today as an 2X-Small (at $500/year) if it were not for the legacy maintenance fee cap. Because of the cap you are invoiced $125 per year, and in 2022, you will pay $150 (again with the cap increasing $25 per year until you are eventually paying the same as all other 2X-Small ARIN customers.
Implementing a $100 fee for OrgCreate and OrgRecovery transactions
I believe this is an excellent way to recover costs of ARIN services for legacy holders.
Increasing the transfer processing fee to $500
This is also an excellent way to recover costs. I seem to remember in 2017, there was a great deal of effort on my part to effect the transfer. The $500 seems a good initial cost, but if that fee doesn’t cover the entire costs incurred by ARIN the fee should be sufficient to cover the costs of the work.
Acknowledged, and very helpful to hear.
Thanks again!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers
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