[ARIN-consult] Consultation on ARIN IRR Roadmap
David Farmer
farmer at umn.edu
Thu Feb 22 17:42:02 EST 2018
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:19 PM, Job Snijders <job at ntt.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 04:06:28PM -0500, Jason Schiller wrote:
> > I am confused...
> >
> > the current ARIN IRR is rr.arin.net
>
> ARIN manages an IRR database called "ARIN" in a daemon running on host
> rr.arin.net. You can publish data from multiple databases via a single
> fqdn like 'rr.arin.net'. I think what David Farmer is talking about is
> the "source: ARIN" aspect of the data you show:
>
> $ whois -h rr.arin.net 199.43.0.0/24 | grep source
> source: ARIN # Filtered
>
> RIPE is developing something similar, where non-authoritative data will
> be marked with "source: RIPE-NONAUTH" rather than "source: RIPE" to show
> which objects came into existance because of the chain of trust from the
> RIR data to the IRR data, and some didn't.
>
> With an example from the ARIN IRR:
>
> job at vurt ~$ whois -h rr.arin.net -- "-B 192.0.2.0/24" | egrep
> "route:|source:"
> route: 192.0.2.0/24
> source: ARIN
> route: 192.0.2.0/24
> source: ARIN
>
> 192.0.2.0/24 is a Special Use IPv4 prefix (RFC 3330 / RFC 5735) and not
> owned by either of the organisations that created a route object for it
> in the ARIN IRR. It is crazy that there even are route objects for this
> prefix.
>
> In my opinion, IRR 'route:' objects covering prefixes like 192.0.2.0/24
> should either be purged from the ARIN IRR - or should be clearly marked
> by changing the "source: ARIN" to "source: ARIN-OLD" (or perhaps "source:
> ARIN-NONAUTHORITATIVE-LEGACY-GARBAGE" ;-))
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Job
>
Yep, that is what I was trying to get at. I didn't know if "-" was a valid
character, since none of the current IRRs have a "-" in their source
field. Therefore it was just easier to assume "-" wasn't valid.
But if "-" is valid then "ARIN-OLD" is what I really thought of first, but
better yet is "ARIN-LEGACY" (and "ARIN-NONAUTHORITATIVE-LEGACY-GARBAGE" is
fine with me too;-)).
And, then after a year or so all the "ARIN-NONAUTHORITATIVE-LEGACY-GARBAGE"
magically just disappears.
Thanks.
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