[ARIN-consult] Consultation on ARIN IRR Roadmap

David Farmer farmer at umn.edu
Thu Feb 22 17:42:02 EST 2018

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 3:19 PM, Job Snijders <job at ntt.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 04:06:28PM -0500, Jason Schiller wrote:
> > I am confused...
> >
> > the current ARIN IRR is rr.arin.net
> ARIN manages an IRR database called "ARIN" in a daemon running on host
> rr.arin.net. You can publish data from multiple databases via a single
> fqdn like 'rr.arin.net'. I think what David Farmer is talking about is
> the "source: ARIN" aspect of the data you show:
>     $ whois -h rr.arin.net | grep source
>     source:         ARIN # Filtered
> RIPE is developing something similar, where non-authoritative data will
> be marked with "source: RIPE-NONAUTH" rather than "source: RIPE" to show
> which objects came into existance because of the chain of trust from the
> RIR data to the IRR data, and some didn't.
> With an example from the ARIN IRR:
>     job at vurt ~$ whois -h rr.arin.net -- "-B" | egrep
> "route:|source:"
>     route:
>     source:         ARIN
>     route:
>     source:         ARIN
> is a Special Use IPv4 prefix (RFC 3330 / RFC 5735) and not
> owned by either of the organisations that created a route object for it
> in the ARIN IRR. It is crazy that there even are route objects for this
> prefix.
> In my opinion, IRR 'route:' objects covering prefixes like
> should either be purged from the ARIN IRR - or should be clearly marked
> by changing the "source: ARIN" to "source: ARIN-OLD" (or perhaps "source:
> Kind regards,
> Job

Yep, that is what I was trying to get at. I didn't know if "-" was a valid
character, since none of the current IRRs have a "-" in their source
field.  Therefore it was just easier to assume "-" wasn't valid.

But if "-" is valid then "ARIN-OLD" is what I really thought of first, but
fine with me too;-)).

And, then after a year or so all the "ARIN-NONAUTHORITATIVE-LEGACY-GARBAGE"
 magically just disappears.


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