[ARIN-consult] Community Consultation on CKN23-ARIN Now Open

[William Herrin]

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:15 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:

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> On 30 Mar 2017, at 12:00 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
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> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:53 AM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
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>> Does this answer your question, or did I miss it?
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> Thanks John,
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> You answered part of it: as long as the POCs have been maintained with
> reachable email, phone and postal addresses, all is well.
>
> What happens if the POC falls out of date and line 5b (or 4b as it was on
> some versions) on the original registration was essentially a fictitious
> name which served as an alias for the individual making the registration?
> Cases where the 5b name does not and never did exist as an independent
> legal entity? Or as Steven described, a like-named organization exists
> today but did not then and has no connection to the number resource?
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> They are the problematic cases, as we definitely do not want to deprive
> the original registrant
> (or their legal successor) of rights to their number resources, but must
> take great care to avoid
> facilitating a party which looks quite similar from posing as the original
> registrant and hijacking
> those same rights.
>
> In those situations, how does ARIN go about making the determination that
> the guy presenting himself is the guy who registered the resources, is in
> actual fact the registrant and has the authority to make updates?
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> Very carefully…
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> (Apologies for not getting into more detail, but by definition such
> information would provide a
> playbook for those who have nefarious intent.)
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>
Thanks John. You answered my underlying question which is that ARIN
addresses and will continue to address these situations in the registrant's
favor regardless of what happens with the CKN23-ARIN handle.


Regarding the question the consultation asks, I lean towards option 3, but
I don't think it's appropriate to present an abuse POC that ARIN deems
unvalidated. You're sorta signing people up for unsolicited email for which
they don't necessarily have a simple way to opt out let alone opt in.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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