[ARIN-consult] Consultation on Transfer Fees Now Open

[Jason Schiller]

I am not sure where I stand on this fee in general...

If there is a fee, I do not oppose have a reduced fee for "small"
organizations in order to avoid a processing fee that is a large
portion of the transaction.

I do however oppose a percentage based fee, which may make it more
difficult to calculate and plan for budgets.

I propose you choose a reasonable price for small transaction
(what is reasonable and what is small is debatable but lets say /23 is
small)

Then bump up the flat fee for all other transactions to cover what is lost
from a reduction on the small transfers.

For reference, what is the cost to take an existing legacy resource and
bring it under RSA?

One way to think about this is it is the cost to research the block and
ensure that the resource
holder is the party that claims to hold the block.  Could ARIN offer a
service that would
certify that the claim resource holder is making is certified via ARIN (to
the same extent
as if an RSA was signed) but without signing an RSA?

___Jason


On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Hannigan, Martin <marty at akamai.com> wrote:

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> On Sep 7, 2016, at 6:41 AM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
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> On Sep 6, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Hannigan, Martin <marty at akamai.com> wrote:
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> On Sep 6, 2016, at 17:24, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:
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> If folks want variable fees for different sizes, that can be done;
> I would only caution that use of the term “fair’ for describing
> such an sized-index fee schedule is quite a subjective matter.
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> I’m not suggesting variable fees, I’m suggesting a fixed percentage as a
> way to more equitably distribute fees along with the two sided application
> to reduce the impact for both parties. In retrospect, that may be neutral
> in terms of aggregation, but if it’s applied to each transaction, that may
> be incentive as well.
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> Shouldn't "everyone" be able to "reasonably" ascertain chain of custody
> pre charge? Brokers could charge research fees and alleviate the members
> from wasted time.
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> Most brokers do research these materials, and that speeds up the processing
> (since documentation is readily available when ARIN requests such) but that
> does not preclude ARIN having to carefully review these materials to
> confirm
> veracity and prevent anyone from hijacking blocks via creative requests…
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> True. That’s a risk I think is fair to assign to the brokers. It's a fair
> trade for the financial gain, to let them be the first line of defense in
> terms of fraud.
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> Best,
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> -M<
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