<div dir="ltr"><div>I am not sure where I stand on this fee in general... </div><div><br></div>If there is a fee, I do not oppose have a reduced fee for "small" <div>organizations in order to avoid a processing fee that is a large </div><div>portion of the transaction. <div><div><br></div><div>I do however oppose a percentage based fee, which may make it more </div><div>difficult to calculate and plan for budgets.</div><div><br></div><div>I propose you choose a reasonable price for small transaction </div><div>(what is reasonable and what is small is debatable but lets say /23 is small)</div></div><div><br></div></div><div>Then bump up the flat fee for all other transactions to cover what is lost</div><div>from a reduction on the small transfers.</div><div><br></div><div>For reference, what is the cost to take an existing legacy resource and bring it under RSA?</div><div><br></div><div>One way to think about this is it is the cost to research the block and ensure that the resource</div><div>holder is the party that claims to hold the block. Could ARIN offer a service that would </div><div>certify that the claim resource holder is making is certified via ARIN (to the same extent</div><div>as if an RSA was signed) but without signing an RSA?</div><div><br></div><div>___Jason </div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Hannigan, Martin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marty@akamai.com" target="_blank">marty@akamai.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span class=""><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Sep 7, 2016, at 6:41 AM, John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" target="_blank">jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-1155591346218531748Apple-interchange-newline"><div>
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<div>If folks want variable fees for different sizes, that can be done; </div>
<div>I would only caution that use of the term “fair’ for describing </div>
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<div>Shouldn't "everyone" be able to "reasonably" ascertain chain of custody pre charge? Brokers could charge research fees and alleviate the members from wasted time. </div>
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</span><div>veracity and prevent anyone from hijacking blocks via creative requests…</div>
</div></div></blockquote><br></div><div><br></div><div>True. That’s a risk I think is fair to assign to the brokers. It's a fair trade for the financial gain, to let them be the first line of defense in terms of fraud. </div><div><br></div><br><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>-M<</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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