[ARIN-consult] Community Consultation on IRR Route Validation

[David Huberman]

I believe ARIN should not spend any money on further development of the IRR until there is a loud noise from the operational community to do so.

The RPKI efforts cost ARIN a lot of member money, and the benefits the operational community are receiving from all that work are neglible if not near zero. 

David R Huberman
Principal, Global IP Addressing
Microsoft Corporation

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-consult-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-consult-
> bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of ARIN
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 10:31 AM
> To: arin-consult at arin.net
> Subject: [ARIN-consult] Community Consultation on IRR Route Validation
> 
> The following suggestions submitted via the ARIN Consultation and
> Suggestion Process (ACSP) are related to the topic of validation between an
> Internet Routing Registry (IRR) and the ARIN registry database.
> 
> * 2015.3: Tie Route Objects in IRR to Netblocks of RIR Database
> * 2014.30: Reflect Returns in IRR Data
> * 2008.14: Construct Validated IRR Data
> 
> These suggestions may be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/index.html
> 
> In addition to these open suggestions, ARIN has noted recent increased
> feedback from customers on this topic. This feedback includes direct
> communications with ARIN customers on the topic and open discussions by
> operator groups.
> 
> ARIN is opening this community consultation to obtain feedback on the
> following questions:
> 
> * Should ARIN begin a new project to enable IRR route object validation to
> the ARIN registry database?
> * If this consultation results in support for moving forward in this area of
> work, it will be taken under advisement by the ARIN Board of Trustees for
> consideration as a new area of priority by the ARIN organization. If approved,
> ARIN staff would participate in community-driven initiatives in this area, and
> using information gathered from these initiatives and this consultation,
> produce a specific proposal to move forward.
> * If yes, should this effort be coordinated with other RIRs to help facilitate
> cross-registry authentication?
> * If yes, should this effort also support third party IRR route object
> authentication?
> 
> Please provide comments to arin-consult at arin.net.
> 
> This consultation will remain open through 5:00 PM EDT on Friday, 16 April
> 2015.
> 
> For Background and Consideration:
> 
> ARIN's current IRR offering is based on an old version of RIPE codebase
> supplemented by custom scripts written by ARIN to work with our systems.
> This older codebase is no longer supported by RIPE NCC, as they moved to a
> new codebase several years ago. The current ARIN IRR does not offer route
> object validation of any sort.
> 
> If ARIN staff were to enable IRR route object validation against the ARIN
> registry database, it would likely require abandoning the current ARIN IRR
> and moving to a completely new codebase. Creating a new ARIN IRR with
> route object validation and solid synchronization with the ARIN registry
> database would require a significant resource effort by ARIN.
> 
> It should be noted that an ARIN-only IRR project would not provide route
> object validation across RIR registry databases, and there appears to be a
> strong desire for cross-registry authentication.
> 
> The idea of enabling third party IRR route object authentication has also been
> raised. This would allow non-RIR operated IRRs to conduct route object
> authentication with the RIR registry database If you have any questions,
> please contact us at info at arin.net.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> 
> 
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