[ARIN-consult] number of member/non-member organizations

Jo Rhett jrhett at netconsonance.com
Thu Apr 10 11:30:21 EDT 2014

On Apr 10, 2014, at 2:57 AM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> On Apr 9, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Jo Rhett <jrhett at netconsonance.com> wrote:
>> John, does ARIN have any flag for validated organizations?  Or at least ones which have signed a contract?  Based on personal experience and some attempts to retrieve orphan resources, I suspect there are a large number of dead or MIA organizations/persons in that list. I’ve been in contact with ARIN regarding at least 20-something resource holders where we were unable to fix incorrect data or otherwise establish appropriate chain of authority. These would show as duplicates for the organizations which are actively routing said resources today.
>  There is a last updated date field on both networks and organizations 
>  in the database, but a "validated" flag would be somewhat problematic 
>  (since a validated organization can become defunct at any time)
>  It takes real effort by organizations to maintain accurate registry 
>  records, and there hasn't always been significant incentive to do so
>  even for organizations that are simply changing contacts, let alone in
>  the period when an organization is shutting its doors or similar exit.

I completely agree -- however I note that you have sent messages to contacts to ensure they are reachable, and list in the interface when they are not. Also, organizations that write a check to you annually are quite likely to exist ;-)  All of the records which I am aware of which are "orphans" would not fit in either category for many multiples of years.

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