[ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Fee Schedule Change Consultation

Jesse D. Geddis jesse at la-broadband.com
Tue Nov 13 13:41:03 EST 2012


Heather,

It is only loosely. There's a couple ways in which it veers way off that
I'm not sure is appropriate:
1. It has a 'cap' for fees and I don't think one should exist
2. It has a tier system that serves a purpose I'm unaware of. It seems at
best there should be a 'small' tier and an 'everyone else' that scales
directly with the size of their assignment.
3. Apparently the legacy holders pay no fees.

-- 
Jesse D. Geddis

LA Broadband LLC




On 11/13/12 10:27 AM, "Schiller, Heather A" <heather.schiller at verizon.com>
wrote:


I'm pretty sure ARIN already uses the count of total addresses within an
ORG as the basis for the fee?  For example, if an org has 4 non-contiguous
/22's (a /20 worth of IP's) they bill at Small (/20-/19)

I do think the wording could be improved.. Allocation or assignment size
instead of "block size"

 --Heather 

-----Original Message-----
From: arin-consult-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-consult-bounces at arin.net]
On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:48 PM
To: John Curran
Cc: arin-consult at arin.net
Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Fee Schedule Change
Consultation


On Nov 12, 2012, at 14:10 , John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:

> On Nov 12, 2012, at 5:00 PM, "Mr. James W. Laferriere"
><babydr at baby-dragons.com> wrote:
> 
>> With the reduced fee's for an end user /24 (what looks to me as) $100 .
>>   This would reduce my heart ache quite a bit .  I already have an ASN
>>   (19274) for which I pay the $100 annual maintenance fee .
>> 
>>   My question is what would my end user fee be for this combination ,
>>ipv4/24 & ASN be ?
> 
> As proposed, there would be a $100/yr end-user maintenance fee for
> each of the IPv4 block and for each AS number (for a total of
> $200/year in your example)
> 
> There has been some discussion to include end-user maintenance for 1
> IPv4 block, 1 IPv6 block, and 1 AS number for a single $100 annual
> fee, and $100 for each additional resource.  If that change is
> adopted, your total would be $100/year.


I also find it interesting that under the current proposed end-user
restructuring, a small multihomer that has a /23, a /24, and a /48 with an
ASN would have their fees quadruple from $100/year to $400/year while a
very large corporate legacy holder (e.g. Apple, HP, MIT) that still
refuses to sign the LRSA or ANY RSA would have their fees remain at $0.

Perhaps it would be worth while to consider as part of this fee
restructuring:

1.	Removing the fee exemption for legacy holders.
and/or
2.	Basing the fees on total address holdings rather than number of blocks.

Owen


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