[ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Fee Schedule Change Consultation

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Tue Nov 13 14:19:06 EST 2012

Heather, that is for ISPs.

For end-users, the current fee is $100 no matter what you have unless you're a legacy holder that still refuses to sign any RSA in which case you pay $0.

In the proposed structure, end users would be charged $100 per record. $100 for an ASN and $100 for a /8 and $100 for a /24 and $100 for a /16 and $100 for a /22 and $100 for a /12 and $100 for an IPv6 /48 and $100 for an IPv6 /12.

(obviously no one organization is going to have all of those things, but, for each entry in whois, count up $100 and that's what you get charged as an end user under the current proposal).


On Nov 13, 2012, at 10:27 , "Schiller, Heather A" <heather.schiller at verizon.com> wrote:

> I'm pretty sure ARIN already uses the count of total addresses within an ORG as the basis for the fee?  For example, if an org has 4 non-contiguous /22's (a /20 worth of IP's) they bill at Small (/20-/19) 
> I do think the wording could be improved.. Allocation or assignment size instead of "block size"
> --Heather 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-consult-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-consult-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:48 PM
> To: John Curran
> Cc: arin-consult at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [ARIN-consult] [arin-announce] Fee Schedule Change Consultation
> On Nov 12, 2012, at 14:10 , John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>> On Nov 12, 2012, at 5:00 PM, "Mr. James W. Laferriere" <babydr at baby-dragons.com> wrote:
>>> With the reduced fee's for an end user /24 (what looks to me as) $100 .
>>>  This would reduce my heart ache quite a bit .  I already have an ASN
>>>  (19274) for which I pay the $100 annual maintenance fee .
>>>  My question is what would my end user fee be for this combination , ipv4/24 & ASN be ?
>> As proposed, there would be a $100/yr end-user maintenance fee for 
>> each of the IPv4 block and for each AS number (for a total of 
>> $200/year in your example)
>> There has been some discussion to include end-user maintenance for 1 
>> IPv4 block, 1 IPv6 block, and 1 AS number for a single $100 annual 
>> fee, and $100 for each additional resource.  If that change is 
>> adopted, your total would be $100/year.
> I also find it interesting that under the current proposed end-user restructuring, a small multihomer that has a /23, a /24, and a /48 with an ASN would have their fees quadruple from $100/year to $400/year while a very large corporate legacy holder (e.g. Apple, HP, MIT) that still refuses to sign the LRSA or ANY RSA would have their fees remain at $0.
> Perhaps it would be worth while to consider as part of this fee restructuring:
> 1.	Removing the fee exemption for legacy holders.
> and/or
> 2.	Basing the fees on total address holdings rather than number of blocks.
> Owen
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