Abuse of ARIN policies.

[Joe DeCosta]

in any case, i do suggest that if  you would like to keep your allocations
intact and not impact further allocations, i would certianly provide them
with a nice little spreadsheet like IP hostname, and host type.......blah
blah
http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/rfc/rfc2050.html might be of some interest

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Joe DeCosta
joe at decosta.org
~Off to see the wonderful wizard of Oz!~
~because of the wonderful things he does!~

On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Andrew Metcalf wrote:

> And they aren't exactly "demanding a customer list", the IPs you use and the
> domains on them aren't really information that isn't available to the the
> public anyway, anyone can do a whois on a domain and see who admins it. They
> aren't asking for customer names and phone numbers.
> 
>  I have admined several ARIN blocks, they never asked for anything (besides
> money) after the blocks were issued. I agree that you would really have to
> kick up some flags before they asked for an audit. And a self done audit at
> that, not exactly the IRS. For instance if the business plan for a block
> owner completely changed ("we were an ISP, now we manufacture toast") I
> think that would call for an audit.
> 
> andrew
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe DeCosta" <joe at decosta.org>
> To: "L. James Prevo" <president at prevo.net>
> Cc: "ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)" <vwp at arin.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Abuse of ARIN policies.
> 
> 
> > they CAN do that, but its not likely that they will unless there's a
> > flagrant abuse of IP space reported...afaik...
> >
> > ______________________
> > Joe DeCosta
> > joe at decosta.org
> > ~Off to see the wonderful wizard of Oz!~
> > ~because of the wonderful things he does!~
> >
> > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, L. James Prevo wrote:
> >
> > > I though I would pass this onto the users of this list.  I am wondering
> about
> > > your feelings about this.  Is ARIN requesting this info as this message
> to
> > > this user suggest?
> > >
> > > L. James Prevo
> > > President
> > > The Prevo Network
> > > http://www.prevo.net
> > > "The Place Where We Unlock Your Doors to the Net!"
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > From: "hirsh -e-skwirtz" <hirsheskwirtz at hotmail.com>
> > > To: cobalt-users at list.cobalt.com
> > > Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:16:20 -0700
> > > Subject: [cobalt-users] what the hell kind of crap is this???
> > > Reply-To: cobalt-users at list.cobalt.com
> > >
> > > my isp and server provider sent me this email - demanding my custoner
> list -
> > >
> > > has anybody ever had to deal with this sort of intrusion?
> > >
> > > we have been told we will loose our servers if we do not comply
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>
> > >
> > > Subject: IP audit
> > > CC: ipadmin at cobaltracks.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Our IP's are being checked (audited) by ARIN. We must justify the IP
> > > usage
> > > to ARIN or we may lose IP's. If we lose the IP's we might not be able
> > > to
> > > provide some services to you, Cobalt Racks customers (one of our major
> > > competitors recently lost a big part of their IP allocation).
> > >
> > > As you know, there is a shortage of IP's worldwide. Please help us to
> > > keep
> > > the IP's and provide services for you. This is what we need:
> > >
> > > - Complete list of all your IP's
> > >
> > > - Complete list of ALL DOMAINS on EACH IP.
> > >
> > > We count on your support. This information is confidential and goes
> > > only to
> > > ARIN, which is a non-profit organization.
> > >
> > > Please send this back by Friday, May 4, 2001. WE MUST HAVE THIS
> > > INFORMATION!
> > >
> > > Please send the list to ipadmin at cobaltracks.com
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Tom Surmiak
> > > Sales
> > > Cobalt Racks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>