Abuse of ARIN policies.

[Andrew Metcalf]

And they aren't exactly "demanding a customer list", the IPs you use and the
domains on them aren't really information that isn't available to the the
public anyway, anyone can do a whois on a domain and see who admins it. They
aren't asking for customer names and phone numbers.

 I have admined several ARIN blocks, they never asked for anything (besides
money) after the blocks were issued. I agree that you would really have to
kick up some flags before they asked for an audit. And a self done audit at
that, not exactly the IRS. For instance if the business plan for a block
owner completely changed ("we were an ISP, now we manufacture toast") I
think that would call for an audit.

andrew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe DeCosta" <joe at decosta.org>
To: "L. James Prevo" <president at prevo.net>
Cc: "ARIN Virtual Web Hosting (E-mail)" <vwp at arin.net>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: Abuse of ARIN policies.


> they CAN do that, but its not likely that they will unless there's a
> flagrant abuse of IP space reported...afaik...
>
> ______________________
> Joe DeCosta
> joe at decosta.org
> ~Off to see the wonderful wizard of Oz!~
> ~because of the wonderful things he does!~
>
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, L. James Prevo wrote:
>
> > I though I would pass this onto the users of this list.  I am wondering
about
> > your feelings about this.  Is ARIN requesting this info as this message
to
> > this user suggest?
> >
> > L. James Prevo
> > President
> > The Prevo Network
> > http://www.prevo.net
> > "The Place Where We Unlock Your Doors to the Net!"
> >
> > Message: 5
> > From: "hirsh -e-skwirtz" <hirsheskwirtz at hotmail.com>
> > To: cobalt-users at list.cobalt.com
> > Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:16:20 -0700
> > Subject: [cobalt-users] what the hell kind of crap is this???
> > Reply-To: cobalt-users at list.cobalt.com
> >
> > my isp and server provider sent me this email - demanding my custoner
list -
> >
> > has anybody ever had to deal with this sort of intrusion?
> >
> > we have been told we will loose our servers if we do not comply
> >
> > >>>>>>>
> >
> > Subject: IP audit
> > CC: ipadmin at cobaltracks.com
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Our IP's are being checked (audited) by ARIN. We must justify the IP
> > usage
> > to ARIN or we may lose IP's. If we lose the IP's we might not be able
> > to
> > provide some services to you, Cobalt Racks customers (one of our major
> > competitors recently lost a big part of their IP allocation).
> >
> > As you know, there is a shortage of IP's worldwide. Please help us to
> > keep
> > the IP's and provide services for you. This is what we need:
> >
> > - Complete list of all your IP's
> >
> > - Complete list of ALL DOMAINS on EACH IP.
> >
> > We count on your support. This information is confidential and goes
> > only to
> > ARIN, which is a non-profit organization.
> >
> > Please send this back by Friday, May 4, 2001. WE MUST HAVE THIS
> > INFORMATION!
> >
> > Please send the list to ipadmin at cobaltracks.com
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Tom Surmiak
> > Sales
> > Cobalt Racks
> >
> >
> >
>