IP Space

[Mike Lieberman]

Bill, it's the Apache numbers that may be suspect. There is amply evidence
that the number of Apache servers is bloated by casual installation of the
code on Linux boxes. Many of these boxes are not really providing any HTTP
services. What you get when to look at many of these Apache installations is
the default apache screen.

Just another example of the common saying
	There are lies, there are damned lies and then there are statistics.

IIS, whether you are a fan of it or not, is relatively widely installed
across the industry. Establishing a policy that doesn't take it into account,
is at least contentious, and may bespeak an inherent arrogance toward those
who use IIS.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: policy-request at arin.net
> [mailto:policy-request at arin.net]On Behalf
> Of Bill Van Emburg
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 1:31 PM
> To: info at avehost.com
> Cc: Clayton Lambert; 'Policy at Arin. Net'
> Subject: Re: IP Space
>
>
> Actually, I do question your numbers.  The last I heard, more sites on
> the Internet were running Apache than anything else.  Your numbers
> derive from an ill-defined subset of "the largest retail sites."  By
> whose definition?
>
> However, more to the point, while IIS numbers certainly *are*
> vendor-specific, I disagree strongly with Mr. Lambert's statement, "I
> think it is erroneous to hold policies to vendor-specific
> limitations."
>
> I believe that any policy you set must account for the
> reality of what's
> available (commercially and free) to the vast majority of web sites on
> the Internet.  Setting a policy that can't be followed by users of
> Apache, Netscape and IIS, for starters, is completely
> unreasonable, and
> I would oppose such a policy vigorously.
> --
>
> 				     -- Bill Van Emburg
> 				     	Quadrix Solutions, Inc.
> Phone: 732-235-2335, x206		(mailto:bve at quadrix.com)
> Fax:   732-235-2336			(http://quadrix.com)
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>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "AveHost.com Staff" wrote:
> >
> > I think any policy that affects the operation of IIS, in
> any version, is
> > hardly "vendor specific" as many, many servers on the
> public Internet are
> > running IIS, in fact, 47% of the secure sites and 52% of
> the largest retail
> > sites on the Internet are running on Microsoft Windows®.
> Are you going to
> > tell me those are "vendor specific" numbers?
> >
> > AveHost.com Staff
> > AveHost.com, a service of RegSearch International
> > 201-840-7311
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Clayton Lambert [mailto:Clay at exodus.net]
> > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:31 PM
> > To: info at avehost.com; 'Susan Zeigler'
> > Cc: 'Policy at Arin. Net'
> > Subject: RE: IP Space
> >
> > I think it is erroneous to hold policies to vendor-specific
> limitations.
> > Protocol support should be the primary focus for policy.
> >
> > Clayton Lambert
> > Exodus Communications
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: policy-request at arin.net
[mailto:policy-request at arin.net]On Behalf
> Of AveHost.com Staff
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 10:41 PM
> To: Susan Zeigler
> Cc: Policy at Arin. Net
> Subject: RE: IP Space
>
> Susan:
>
> I mean no disrespect but that is not current possible in IIS 4 or IIS 5.o.
> There is no way to make an instance of a site in IIS 4 or 5 use SSL with
the
> same IP, IIS blocks it with an error message.  Thus, it DOES hold lots of
> water!
>
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