transfer policy

[Kim Hubbard]

I wouldn't say that justification itself helps with the legacy issues.

Kim


At 01:00 PM 5/12/00 -0400, Sweeting, John wrote:
>I agree, Kim. I would guess that almost all transfers involve some legacy
>addresses.
>
>Does your staff feel that the justification at transfer time has helped to
>clean up some of the legacy address issues?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kim Hubbard [mailto:kimh at arin.net]
>Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 11:34 AM
>To: Sweeting, John; policy at arin.net
>Subject: RE: transfer policy 
>
>
>At 07:59 AM 5/12/00 -0400, Sweeting, John wrote:
>>Jason, 
>>
>>I see your point more clearly now but it really was advantageous for me to
>>do this because both companies had beaucoup legacy address space that had
>>never been justified but due to the transfer now had to be. 
>>I could probably agree with you if both companies involved in a transfer
>>owned nothing but ARIN justified address space that it could be a waste of
>>time and resources to re-justify the space. I have no idea how many
>>transfers today are in that category. My feeling is that this policy has
>>helped to clean up some of the legacy address space issues that are out
>>there.
>>
>>Kim, is there any statistics kept on this? or would any of your staff be
>>able to make an educated swag? 
>
>I'll look into it but I'm assuming most transfer requests involve at least
>some legacy addresses.
>
>Kim
>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jason Redisch [mailto:jredisch at virtela.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 11:23 PM
>>To: policy at arin.net
>>Subject: RE: transfer policy 
>>
>>
>>John,
>>
>>	Being able to distinguish known ISP to ISP transfers that both have
>>an ARIN
>>history vs. all other transfers has an advantage on its own by allowing
>ARIN
>>to dedicate more resources to unknown transfers.
>>
>>	Other than that both MCI and C&W had already justified their address
>>space
>>to ARIN. During the transfer you had to show legal transfer and rejustify
>>both ISP's address space even though both were already ARIN members.  You
>>also had a history of coming back to ARIN for IP space so if the
>>justification was not completed then it is not like you would disappear off
>>the face of the Earth.   I see no reason why we as a community need to
>waste
>>your resources and ARIN's re-justifying both of the address pools in a
>>merger like the one you went through.
>>
>>	It is not a question of putting off something that needs to be
>>justified.
>>It is a question of spending time going through two justifications or just
>>one.
>>
>>-Jason