transfer policy

[Sweeting, John]

I agree, Kim. I would guess that almost all transfers involve some legacy
addresses.

Does your staff feel that the justification at transfer time has helped to
clean up some of the legacy address issues?

-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Hubbard [mailto:kimh at arin.net]
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 11:34 AM
To: Sweeting, John; policy at arin.net
Subject: RE: transfer policy 


At 07:59 AM 5/12/00 -0400, Sweeting, John wrote:
>Jason, 
>
>I see your point more clearly now but it really was advantageous for me to
>do this because both companies had beaucoup legacy address space that had
>never been justified but due to the transfer now had to be. 
>I could probably agree with you if both companies involved in a transfer
>owned nothing but ARIN justified address space that it could be a waste of
>time and resources to re-justify the space. I have no idea how many
>transfers today are in that category. My feeling is that this policy has
>helped to clean up some of the legacy address space issues that are out
>there.
>
>Kim, is there any statistics kept on this? or would any of your staff be
>able to make an educated swag? 

I'll look into it but I'm assuming most transfer requests involve at least
some legacy addresses.

Kim

>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jason Redisch [mailto:jredisch at virtela.com]
>Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 11:23 PM
>To: policy at arin.net
>Subject: RE: transfer policy 
>
>
>John,
>
>	Being able to distinguish known ISP to ISP transfers that both have
>an ARIN
>history vs. all other transfers has an advantage on its own by allowing
ARIN
>to dedicate more resources to unknown transfers.
>
>	Other than that both MCI and C&W had already justified their address
>space
>to ARIN. During the transfer you had to show legal transfer and rejustify
>both ISP's address space even though both were already ARIN members.  You
>also had a history of coming back to ARIN for IP space so if the
>justification was not completed then it is not like you would disappear off
>the face of the Earth.   I see no reason why we as a community need to
waste
>your resources and ARIN's re-justifying both of the address pools in a
>merger like the one you went through.
>
>	It is not a question of putting off something that needs to be
>justified.
>It is a question of spending time going through two justifications or just
>one.
>
>-Jason