too many routes

[Mike Handley]

I have also gotten several!  Why?

Mike Handley handley at microserve.net

On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Jim Rosser wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> Why are you sending me this crap?
> 
> Jim Rosser, jim at ssmc.demon.co.uk
> 
> ----------
> > From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com>
> > To: Joseph T. Klein <jtk at titania.net>
> > Cc: Jon Lewis <jlewis at inorganic5.fdt.net>; Michael Dillon
> <michael at priori.net>; naipr at arin.net
> > Subject: Re: too many routes
> > Date: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 08:35
> > 
> > Joseph,
> > 
> > Joseph T. Klein wrote:
> > > 
> > > A system must be established that will NOT keep new entities from
> entering the market.
> > > I would rather see a world with 30 or 40 backbones, vs. a world with
> one.
> > 
> >   Yep!  I have been saying this for some time now (2 or 3 years).  
> > > 
> > > The concept of upstream providers providing address space  does not
> work for
> > > organizations seeking to establish national or international networks.
> > 
> >   It sure doesn't.  And is the fundamental problem with the "Upstream
> > Provider" system along with the RFC's that go along with this 
> > method (Rfc2050, Rfc 1918, RFC1917).
> > > 
> > > If I am to build a network to 5 major meet points and contract with
> UUNET, and
> > > MCI for transit, why should I put up with the InetrNIC or ARIN telling
> me
> > > that I must get a block of addresses from an upstream??! How the do you
> expect
> > > to establish new backbones without a loophole for new providers to get
> a /19
> > > and an ASN? Even to anty up to do this, we are in the 1 Million $$$
> range.
> > 
> >   YEs!  I have been trying to get this across for some time now.  Glad
> > you are on board with common sense.
> > > 
> > > Come on registry people ... give the open market model a chance.
> > 
> >   Don't count on it.  We shall have to build our own I fear.
> > > 
> > > --- On Tue, 9 Sep 1997 23:41:50 -0400 (EDT)  Jon Lewis
> <jlewis at inorganic5.fdt.net> wrote:
> > - snip -
> > > --
> > > From: Joseph T. Klein, Titania Corporation http://www.titania.net
> > > mailto:jtk at titania.net                     Sent: 02:53:06 CST/CDT
> 09/10/97
> > > 
> > > If the Internet stumbles, it will not be because we lack for
> technology,
> > > vision, or motivation. It will be because we cannot set a direction
> > > and march collectively into the future.
> > >                       -- http://info.isoc.org/internet-history/#Future
> > 
> > Regards,
> > -- 
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java Development Eng.
> > Information Eng. Group. IEG. INC. 
> > Phone :913-294-2375 (v-office)
> > E-Mail jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
> 

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