too many routes

[Jim Rosser]

Hello!

Why are you sending me this crap?

Jim Rosser, jim at ssmc.demon.co.uk

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> From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com>
> To: Joseph T. Klein <jtk at titania.net>
> Cc: Jon Lewis <jlewis at inorganic5.fdt.net>; Michael Dillon
<michael at priori.net>; naipr at arin.net
> Subject: Re: too many routes
> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 1997 08:35
> 
> Joseph,
> 
> Joseph T. Klein wrote:
> > 
> > A system must be established that will NOT keep new entities from
entering the market.
> > I would rather see a world with 30 or 40 backbones, vs. a world with
one.
> 
>   Yep!  I have been saying this for some time now (2 or 3 years).  
> > 
> > The concept of upstream providers providing address space  does not
work for
> > organizations seeking to establish national or international networks.
> 
>   It sure doesn't.  And is the fundamental problem with the "Upstream
> Provider" system along with the RFC's that go along with this 
> method (Rfc2050, Rfc 1918, RFC1917).
> > 
> > If I am to build a network to 5 major meet points and contract with
UUNET, and
> > MCI for transit, why should I put up with the InetrNIC or ARIN telling
me
> > that I must get a block of addresses from an upstream??! How the do you
expect
> > to establish new backbones without a loophole for new providers to get
a /19
> > and an ASN? Even to anty up to do this, we are in the 1 Million $$$
range.
> 
>   YEs!  I have been trying to get this across for some time now.  Glad
> you are on board with common sense.
> > 
> > Come on registry people ... give the open market model a chance.
> 
>   Don't count on it.  We shall have to build our own I fear.
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 9 Sep 1997 23:41:50 -0400 (EDT)  Jon Lewis
<jlewis at inorganic5.fdt.net> wrote:
> - snip -
> > --
> > From: Joseph T. Klein, Titania Corporation http://www.titania.net
> > mailto:jtk at titania.net                     Sent: 02:53:06 CST/CDT
09/10/97
> > 
> > If the Internet stumbles, it will not be because we lack for
technology,
> > vision, or motivation. It will be because we cannot set a direction
> > and march collectively into the future.
> >                       -- http://info.isoc.org/internet-history/#Future
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java Development Eng.
> Information Eng. Group. IEG. INC. 
> Phone :913-294-2375 (v-office)
> E-Mail jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com