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[Jeff Williams]

Jawaid,

Jawaid Bazyar wrote:
> 
> At 02:25 PM 6/25/97 +0100, Jeff Williams wrote:
> >Jawaid,
> >
> >Jawaid Bazyar wrote:
> >>
> >> >Jon wrote:
> >> >> How are they "irrevacably" related?  How are they related at all?
> >>
> >> At 01:08 PM 6/25/97 +0100, Jeff Williams wrote:
> >> >  The relationship is obvious.
> >>
> >> Other than the fact that a domain name is mapped to an IP address (but
> >> could just as easily be mapped to something else..), how are they
> >> "irrevocably related"? If this is all you're talking about, please explain
> >> how the allocation of IP addresses affects how the DNS system works.
> >
> >  First of all, let me say this is not a place for me to give a class.
> >I am not trying to be evasive by answering your question by that
> >comment, it is just not feasible to do so in any meaningful manner on an
> >E-Mail forum.  I think you can understand that.  In addition I give classes
> >all over the world on these matters as part of my living, so as you might
> >immagine, I am not really highly motivated to do so here at any rate
> >on pro bono basis.
> 
> The point is that you're the only person I've ever heard claim that IP
> assignment policy has any effect whatsoever on the Domain Name System.
> 
  Well, fine I am very suprised that your information on this subject
is so limited to me as the ONLY person that claimes IP assingment
policy has ANY effect on the Domain Name System.  As writted just above
by Jon Lewis, he sees one such relationship.  So maybe you didn't
read his post and my response very closely.   

> I am
> by no means technically illiterate, and understand the technical
> underpinnings of most Internet technologies better than even most ISPs, and
> I still don't see the sort of relationship you're talking about.

  Well for starters, read what Jon Lewis wrote just above.  Maybe that
will help you.  Not trying to be reduddant or egotistical here, but for
the sake of brevity I think that is one example for you.
> 
> As to the feasibility of discussing such topics in an e-mail forum, I
> believe you are underestimating the power of such forums.

  I don't argue that discussing such topics is not a powerful tool
for learning and sharing understanding an knowledge, it is.  But for the
perposes of giving a class, it is not.  That would be an entirely
diffrent situation entirely ans I stated I thought very clearly above. 
>;)
> 
> DNS is a convenience, it's a naming system. It happens that DNS provides
> Name->IP and IP->Name mappings, but the manner in which IP addresses are
> assigned is irrelevant to DNS. That's why there are .COMs in Europe and
> .de's in the United States.

  This is an obvious over simplification.  You as a very technicaly
adept individual should know that.  And really proves to an extent
that my point reguarding using E-Mail for the perposes of teaching
classes.  For simple points or copying some code, ect, it is great.
> 
> IP addresses are a naming system, but they're also fundamental to routing
> policy and other core technical Internet systems, due to CIDR, aggregation,
> etc etc. IP addresses have no similar fundamental relationship to DNS.
> 
> So, you'll pardon me if I'm a bit skeptical that you won't even say what
> relationship exists that neither I nor any other ISP have seen... and couch
> your reluctance to discuss it in a reference to the fact that you sell
> training and seminars.

  Well two of the ISP's that we are part owners in sure do.  Hummmmm?
> 
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Regards,
-- 
Jeffrey A. Williams
DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java Development Eng.
Information Eng. Group. IEG. INC. 
Phone :913-294-2375 (v-office)
E-Mail jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com