(Fwd) (Fwd) Re: Scaling ARIN proposal for small ISPs - and eco

[Kent Crow]

again, a filterint test

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From:          "Kent Crow" <crow at surfari.net>
To:            crow at surfari.net
Date:          Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:20:38 +0000
Subject:       (Fwd) Re: Scaling ARIN proposal for small ISPs - and economic
Cc:            dhakala at OSSINC.NET, pjnesser at martigny.ai.mit.edu, naipr at internic.net
Priority:      normal

This is a filtering test.

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Date:          Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:39:41 -0500
To:            Kent Crispin <kent at songbird.com>
From:          "Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb at clark.net>
Subject:       Re: Scaling ARIN proposal for small ISPs - and economic reality
Cc:            dhakala at OSSINC.NET, pjnesser at martigny.ai.mit.edu, naipr at internic.net

At 4:31 PM -0800 1/22/97, Kent Crispin wrote:
>Howard C. Berkowitz allegedly said:
>>
>[...]
>>
>> Please give us implementable engineering suggestions about how to avoid
>> buying such a resource from competitors in the next 6-18 months.
>
>I must have missed the part about ARIN going away in 6-18 months...
>
>--

No, that's not what I was saying. I wasn't speaking about ARIN.  I was
responding to complaints that people "should not" have to get address space
from hierarchically higher-level aggregators with larger blocks, because
unnamed routing technology  "ought" to be immune to the factors motivating
provider-based aggregation.

There's certainly a lot of research going on in new routing paradigms.  But
I was referring to the reality that we have no proven alternatives in the
short term.  If there were not a need for aggregation to reduce the routing
table sizes, much of the RFC2050-style incentives for registries to dole
out only large blocks would be inappropriate.

What I was saying was that in the near term, we don't have alternatives,
and we would need a North American registry for the near term.  At such
time as alternative routing products are available that can deal with
infinitely large tables, the whole aggregation paradigm needs to be
revisited, and the guidance for registries will need to change.


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Kent Crow                                               crow at surfari.net
Surfari Internet Provider Services            http://www.surfari.net
Grover Beach, CA                                   Member ISP/C
(805)473-6525 (voice)                             (805)473-6746 (modem)

"More than any time in history Mankind faces a crossroads. One
path leads to despair and utter hopelessness, the other to total
extinction.  Let us pray that we have the wisdom to choose
correctly." - Woody Allen