Global council of registries???

[Philip J. Nesser II]

Jim Fleming supposedly said:
> 
> My plan calls for these allocations to be "converted"
> not taken away.
> 

Who decides who gets converted?  How do you decide it?  How to you know how
much address space MIT (in this example) is actually using?  Who does this
audit?  To carve out your 3000 /18's below you will leave MIT with exactly
-769654784 IP addresses to use.  I guess they will have to go take all of
Stanfords, BBN's and DEC's just to make up the diference.

> For example, let's say people generally agree that the
> routing tables can handle another 3,000 routes for /18s
> allocated to ISPs. Let's say the NSF gives MIT $3,000,000
> of the Internet Infrastructure Fund to develop a system
> that evaluates which ISPs should get those allocations
> based on some "objective criteria" and not based on who
> took who to lunch.
> 
> Would MIT be able to carve those allocations out of
> the /8 space it has and set up a system to help educate
> ISPs and to make the allocations to the ISPs ?

Absolutely not.  (Amazing how math actually works out)

> 
> Would the Internet be better served by having better
> educated ISPs ?

Why should anyone pay to educate ISP's?  They are businesses.  They need to
educate themselves and pay for their training.  Hey, I would prefer that my
auto mechanic was better trained and I would be better served by them
becuase of it, but should the government pay for it?  No.  Should tax
dollors pay for it?  No.

> 
> The entire IPv4 address space must be evaluated
> as one space. The same rules should apply to the
> entire space as much as possible.

I disagree.  I think any allocations made within a given time frame should
be exactly similar but we can't change history nor can we forsee the
future.  IPv6 may catch on quickly and all of the scrimping of IPv4 space
will have been useless becuase it isn't needed except for legacy systems.
We need to do the best we can go forward.

I think it would be a wonderful move for organizations with unused IP space
to donate it back to the address pool (see RFC 1917 of which I am the
author) but I can't see forcing people to do it.  And for the record BBN
has been excellent in this regard and has returned several /8's already.

> 
> BTW, have you ever computed what a small percentage
> of the space that ISPs actually have ?

Your point?  

> Have you computed the costs to ISPs (businesses)
> for all of the InterNIC run-arounds they have endured ?
> Who is going to pay for those costs ?

Have you computed the costs to businesses for all of the government
run-arounds they have endured?  Who is going to pay for those costs?  

Have you computed the costs to businesses for all of the parts supply
run-arounds they have endured?  Who is going to pay for those costs?

The point being, there is a cost for doing business.  If you can't handle
it then you go out of business.  Once again I don't believe that the
government should fund the inadequacy of an ISP.

--->  Phil