Global council of registries???

[Philip J. Nesser II]

Jim Fleming supposedly said:
> 
> The FAIR allocation of Internet resources is a business,
> they are linked via that tie...
> 

Thats one of the many places we disagree.  Businesses are not fair.  They
tend to compete and want to increase their business.  There is a long
history of independent, tecnically competent indiviudals and organizations
performing regulatory type assignments.  IP address allocation should be
done that way.  (For example, most corporations have board members that are
not employees of the company, to help balance the board.)  Trying to have
people with a financial interest control the allocation goes against this
principle and goes against the principles of openness and fairness which
have brought the Internet to where it is.

> The Registry Industry is a business, they are linked
> via that...
> 
> Once this industry matures, you might be able to
> pull them apart...there are pros and cons to doing that...
> 

Once again, I (and many many others)don't believe that it is wise to link
them to begin with.  I know you have proposed an elaborate scheme to try
and make your registry scheme work which involves significantly increasing
costs to the consumer, but I don't agree with it and don't support it.

> ====
> 
> Example:
> 
> In many States, drivers licenses and license plates
> for cars are handled by the same "agency". Why ???
> It makes for better efficiency and service to the
> consumers and similar expertise is involved in the
> car licensing business...
> 
> Sure car licenses could be in one agency, drivers
> licenses in another and car titles in a third. The
> question is why ?
> 

The functions you quote above require no congnative abilities.  When you
come into get a drivers license or register a car the clerk doesn't have to
make any decisions as the whether you  are going to get the license
renewed.  You are trying to claim that all registration activities should
be handled by the same people, even though they have vastly different
criteria  when evaluating and granting in those activities.

You will not that you can't do numerous other government registration
activities where you get your drivers license?  Why can't you register your
child for a social security number there?  

Another question is why can't I submit applications for building permits
where I submit application for land devlopement?  They are close to the same
thing and are both applications.  Well one is evaluated by an expert in
building codes, wiring, plumbing, etc, while the other is evaluated by
engineers who understand road construction, drainage requirements, traffic
flow patterns, etc.


> =====
> 
> In the case of ARIN, it boils down to people's desire
> to continue to fund "control freaks" to handle part
> of the business of Internet resource allocation rather
> than allow the function to be distributed.
> 

Your characterization of people who do not want the IPv4 address space
traded like a commodity is your own to make, but it is not universally
shared.  

> In my opinion, the general public is not properly
> served by the ARIN scam which would be like saying
> anyone can get a driver's license but car licenses
> will be tightly controlled and still part of the "good old
> geek" network...

If there was a limit to the number of possible car licenses and no further
cars could be manufactured when they ran out, then they should be
regulated.  When the highway department puts in HOV lanes (CIDR blocks)to
enncourage car pooling is that the good old boys network at work?  When
they do flow metering to slow down onramps to the highway to avoid traffic
jams is that some evil plot?

Please provide any documented cases where the "good old geek" network has
refused an address allocation request for any other than technical reasons
or have been arbitrary or capricious or unfair.  And no, people whining
because the NIC's require actual thought in the design of a network or
implementing slow start do not count.

> 
> --
> Jim Fleming
> Unir Corporation
> http://www.Unir.Corp
> 
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> 
> 

--->  Phil