[Iana-transition] NRO Proposal for consolidation of RIR regional inputs into single ICG response

Andrew Dul andrew.dul at quark.net
Thu Oct 16 19:52:05 EDT 2014

I find it a little concerning that last week when some of us asked (at
the ARIN meeting) about how the global process was going to work there
wasn't really a response.  And then 6 days later there is this
"proposal"...that apparently the NRO EC has all agreed to? 

2/3rds agreement amongst these 15 is all that is needed to call any
proposal consensus. Add to that 1/3 of the panel is composed by RIR
staff.  Can someone confirm that the RIR staff on this team are voting
members of the 15?  (The next thing we'll probably see is that the other
two members are either appointed by RIR staff or an RIR board)  Do we
really need RIR staff as voting members of this team?

This process is starting to not look very bottom up to me.

We have a sitting body, the NRO NC, which was elected/appointed by each
of the RIR constituencies to represent each region.  Why aren't they
being considered a valid group to perform this function (of judging
consensus) in an open and transparent manner?

I agree this isn't part of their normal duties, but given the CRISP
process is  "an adaptation of the existing Global Policy Development
Process"...  Why not use the NRO NC who already has the responsibility
for the Global Policy Development Process? 

Are there conflicts that the NRO NC would have by performing in this
role?  Or maybe we need a separate group completely separate from the
NRO/ASO?  How the members of this team are chosen is important if we
believe it will be hard to achieve consensus quickly on a submission to
the ICG. 

Maybe this is too simple...why not just take the submissions from each
of the RIRs, do some work to collate and collect the input.  Create the
submission document, then put that out for discussion and have consensus
judged by the the NRO NC on that document.  (Maybe iterate once on the
first round of feedback) Note any substantive objections in an appendix.


On 10/16/2014 2:53 PM, John Curran wrote:
> Folks - 
> The NRO has issued the following proposal for a process to finalise the transition proposal 
> from the numbering community.
>  <https://www.nro.net/nro-and-internet-governance/iana-oversight/consolidated-rir-iana-stewardship-proposal-team-crisp-team>
> The proposed CRISP team will include 3 members from each region (2 community members 
> and 1 RIR staff per region.)
> Discussion on this list of the NRO proposal is welcome.
> Thanks!
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO
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