ARIN Conversion: Template Instructions Now Available

[Whipple, Scott (CCI-Atlanta)]

Yes that is what I'm suggesting.  I'm also willing to go a little farther on the Org query and lean toward what Lee said.  Eliminate the the Admin from ever showing up in a whois query.  I don't think we can eliminate the Org techs from showing up unless there is an abuse/noc contact, and from what I think I remember abuse/noc contacts are not required to complete an Org template but the Org tech is required.  Because we have to have some contacts showing up for our resources if a company doesn't create an abuse/noc POC we have to list at least the Org Tech contacts.  These are my new compromised suggestions.

Query 1: An Org
Response 1: Only includes abuse or noc contacts unless no abuse/noc contacts are listed, then org techs are listed.

Query 2: A resouce that has POCs associated with it
Response 2: Display only the resource POCs

Query 3A: A resource that does not have POCs associated with it, and the
Org has Abuse and/or NOC contacts
Response 3A: Display the Org Abuse and/or NOC

Query 3B: A resource that does not have POCs associated with it, and the
Org does not have Abuse and/or NOC
Response 3B: Display the Org Techs

Scott


-----Original Message-----
From: ginny listman [mailto:ginny at arin.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:29 PM
To: Dawn Martin
Cc: Whipple, Scott (CCI-Atlanta); dbwg at arin.net
Subject: RE: ARIN Conversion: Template Instructions Now Available


Dawn,

My understanding of what Scott is proposing:

Query 1: An Org
Response 1: ALL POCs associated with the Org. This would include the
Administrative contact, as well as the multiple Technical contacts. Most
people will not be querying Orgs, but rather the actual resource.

Query 2: A resouce that has POCs associated with it
Response 2: Display only the resource POCs

Query 3: A resource that does NOT have POCs associated with it
Response 3: Display the Orgs Tech, NOC and Abuse contacts

Is this right, Scott?

I would go a step further and suggest that query 3 be broken into the
following:

Query 3A: A resource that does not have POCs associated with it, and the
Org has Abuse and/or NOC contacts
Response 3A: Display the Org Abuse and/or NOC

Query 3B: A resource that does not have POCs associated with it, and the
Org does not have Abuse and/or NOC
Response 3B: Display the Org Techs


Ginny

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Dawn Martin wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Are you saying that on any given record the organization would have to have
> at least 1 contact. If the organization decided to put additional POC's on
> the record the org. could decide not to have the admin listed on the record?
>
> If so, then the Admin contact could only be pulled up using a specific WHOIS
> query?
> Something like: whois -h whois.arin.net admin 157.130.0.0
>
> That would be fine with me, I think I have said before that if it was a
> separate
> entry that could be pulled up by savvy WHOIS folks it would be better.
>
> Dawn Martin
> WorldCom IP Planning & Policy Analyst
> dawn.martin at wcom.com
> (703)886-4746
>
>