ARIN Conversion: Template Instructions Now Available

[Dawn Martin]

Scott,

Are you saying that on any given record the organization would have to have
at least 1 contact. If the organization decided to put additional POC's on
the record the org. could decide not to have the admin listed on the record?

If so, then the Admin contact could only be pulled up using a specific WHOIS
query?
Something like: whois -h whois.arin.net admin 157.130.0.0

That would be fine with me, I think I have said before that if it was a
separate
entry that could be pulled up by savvy WHOIS folks it would be better.

Dawn Martin
WorldCom IP Planning & Policy Analyst
dawn.martin at wcom.com
(703)886-4746


-----Original Message-----
From: dbwg-request at arin.net [mailto:dbwg-request at arin.net]On Behalf Of
Whipple, Scott (CCI-Atlanta)
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:15 PM
To: dawn.martin at wcom.com; ginny listman
Cc: dbwg at arin.net
Subject: RE: ARIN Conversion: Template Instructions Now Available


Hi Dawn.  I'm assuming you're going to be the Admin tech for WorldCom.  I
think I would like to see ALL Org contacts being separated from the
resources unless there is no resource POC specified.  If there is a POC
listed on a resource, that is obviously how that ISP wants to be contacted
if there is a problem with that network.  If there is no resource POC
associated with a particular network, then I think how Ginny has it below
would be fine.  I think if we associate all the POC's except the admin we
are going to be getting way more data then we want.  Our answers could end
up being bulky and difficult to fish and find what you really want.  I would
guess ARIN's whois for the majority is used to find out what organization an
IP address is registered too and then secondly for who is responsible for
it.  If you want to know who all the POC are for that organization then you
can do a second query.  If an organization is savvy enough to take the time
and associate a resource te!
ch with there resources, then their Org POC's don't ever need to be shown
unless the Org is actually queried.

Ginny.  The way I would like to see the POC's listed differs slightly from
what ARIN has now.  Is this still open for conversation before conversion,
or is this a closed issue because of lack of community input?

Scott Whipple
Cox Communications


-----Original Message-----
From: Dawn Martin [mailto:dawn.martin at wcom.com]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
To: 'ginny listman'
Cc: dbwg at arin.net
Subject: RE: ARIN Conversion: Template Instructions Now Available


Thanks Ginny, for #1 the URL is:
http://www.arin.net/library/training/2002_templates/index.html# for the
resource Tech POC.

Everyone else,

(OK anyone else) doesn't anyone have anything to say about your
name being put in WHOIS with ALL of your records??? I can only say
for me that I don't want my name to show up.

Anyone...

Bueller...

Bueller...


Dawn Martin
WorldCom IP Planning & Policy Analyst
dawn.martin at wcom.com
(703)886-4746


-----Original Message-----
From: ginny listman [mailto:ginny at arin.net]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Dawn Martin
Cc: dbwg at arin.net
Subject: RE: ARIN Conversion: Template Instructions Now Available




On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Dawn Martin wrote:

> I have a couple of questions:
>
> 1)Can a Resource Tech POC complete ALL aspects of SWIPing? In the
tutorial,
> it only says that
>   they can do allocations?

Yes, a Resource Tech can complete all aspects of SWIPing. In which
tutorial does it say they can only allocate?

>
> 2)Was it ever figured out exactly what contacts were going to be published
> in WHOIS?

No. Although there was concern expressed at the April 2002 Member Meeting
regarding publishing the Administrative and/or Technical contacts, it
needs to be discussed further on the list. I posted information regarding
the Administrative contact
     http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/dbwg/0256.html

There was only one response. I believe that once we release the new WHOIS
and people have the opportunity to see and review what is displayed, this
topic will resurface. For now the new WHOIS will display the following:

Entity     POCs Displayed
======     ==============
 org       All organization POCs including Admin, Tech, NOC and Abuse
resouce    All resource POCs and all organization POCs BUT Admin

>
> 3)In the replies from the new templates is ARIN going to completely change
> the subject line? It
>   would be nice if they could just add their ticket number and nothing
else.
>

It is our intention to only append the ticket number to the subject line,
and nothing else.

>
> Dawn Martin
> WorldCom
>

Ginny Listman
Director of Engineering
ARIN