ARIN Conversion: Template Instructions Now Available

Mon Jul 15 14:15:18 EDT 2002

Hi Dawn.  I'm assuming you're going to be the Admin tech for WorldCom.  I think I would like to see ALL Org contacts being separated from the resources unless there is no resource POC specified.  If there is a POC listed on a resource, that is obviously how that ISP wants to be contacted if there is a problem with that network.  If there is no resource POC associated with a particular network, then I think how Ginny has it below would be fine.  I think if we associate all the POC's except the admin we are going to be getting way more data then we want.  Our answers could end up being bulky and difficult to fish and find what you really want.  I would guess ARIN's whois for the majority is used to find out what organization an IP address is registered too and then secondly for who is responsible for it.  If you want to know who all the POC are for that organization then you can do a second query.  If an organization is savvy enough to take the time and associate a resource tech with there resources, then their Org POC's don't ever need to be shown unless the Org is actually queried.

Ginny.  The way I would like to see the POC's listed differs slightly from what ARIN has now.  Is this still open for conversation before conversion, or is this a closed issue because of lack of community input?

Scott Whipple
Cox Communications

-----Original Message-----
From: Dawn Martin [mailto:dawn.martin at wcom.com]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 AM
To: 'ginny listman'
Cc: dbwg at arin.net
Subject: RE: ARIN Conversion: Template Instructions Now Available

Thanks Ginny, for #1 the URL is:
http://www.arin.net/library/training/2002_templates/index.html# for the
resource Tech POC.

Everyone else,

(OK anyone else) doesn't anyone have anything to say about your
name being put in WHOIS with ALL of your records??? I can only say
for me that I don't want my name to show up.

Anyone...

Bueller...

Dawn Martin
WorldCom IP Planning & Policy Analyst
dawn.martin at wcom.com
(703)886-4746

-----Original Message-----
From: ginny listman [mailto:ginny at arin.net]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:40 AM
To: Dawn Martin
Cc: dbwg at arin.net
Subject: RE: ARIN Conversion: Template Instructions Now Available

On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Dawn Martin wrote:

> I have a couple of questions:
>
> 1)Can a Resource Tech POC complete ALL aspects of SWIPing? In the
tutorial,
> it only says that
>   they can do allocations?

Yes, a Resource Tech can complete all aspects of SWIPing. In which
tutorial does it say they can only allocate?

>
> 2)Was it ever figured out exactly what contacts were going to be published
> in WHOIS?

No. Although there was concern expressed at the April 2002 Member Meeting
regarding publishing the Administrative and/or Technical contacts, it
needs to be discussed further on the list. I posted information regarding
the Administrative contact
     http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/dbwg/0256.html

There was only one response. I believe that once we release the new WHOIS
and people have the opportunity to see and review what is displayed, this
topic will resurface. For now the new WHOIS will display the following:

Entity     POCs Displayed
======     ==============
 org       All organization POCs including Admin, Tech, NOC and Abuse
resouce    All resource POCs and all organization POCs BUT Admin

>
> 3)In the replies from the new templates is ARIN going to completely change
> the subject line? It
>   would be nice if they could just add their ticket number and nothing
else.
>

It is our intention to only append the ticket number to the subject line,
and nothing else.

>
> Dawn Martin
> WorldCom
>

Ginny Listman
Director of Engineering
ARIN