[arin-tech-discuss] Unable to create new ORGIDs

Lisa Liedel lliedel at arin.net
Tue Jul 20 14:51:10 EDT 2021

Hello Brian,

We've reviewed your account and we do see that other Org IDs were created with physical addresses outside the ARIN region. We do note, however, that these Org IDs were created prior to both the policy changes and the changes in ARIN's business practice as announced on 01-Mar-2021, located at: https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-announce/2021-March/002506.html. When requesting an Org ID, even for SWIP or geolocation purposes, ARIN needs to be able to validate the entity requesting the Org ID, or vet the organization and obtain a signed Registration Services Agreement (RSA) prior to the creation of the Org ID. This vetting is completed to ensure ARIN is entering into a contact with the legally registered entity. ARIN's long standing practice has been to vet the organization in the location of the physical address listed on the Org ID. Our Director of Registration Services will contact you off list to discuss the options for your requested needs. I will contact you off list to discuss the options for your requested needs.

Lisa Liedel
Director, Registration Services
American Registry for Internet Numbers

On 7/19/21, 4:31 PM, "arin-tech-discuss on behalf of arin-tech-discuss at arin.net" <arin-tech-discuss-bounces at arin.net on behalf of arin-tech-discuss at arin.net> wrote:

    We're preparing to start offering services in a new location, and wanted 
    to create the relevant ORGID in order to start getting various GeoIP 
    databases updated (yes - I know about GeoFeed, we're looking into that 
    but it doesn't fix the issue of various third party sites that present 
    WHOIS data as the authoritative IP location source).

    It seems this process now requires a ticket with ARIN, but the ARIN 
    staff are being extremely picky about documentation.  For example, 
    they're requiring that we provide documentation we're registered as a 
    business in the location where we've rented some cabinet space, which 
    does not seem to be something that ARIN would need to care about.

    Has anyone else been through this new process before?  Am I missing 
    something obvious about how we should be creating these records?  We 
    have historically preferred using ORGIDs for this so we don't have to go 
    back and update hundreds of simple assignments if contact information 

    NRPM doesn't appear to cover this new process, it only says:

     > New organization records shall be created upon ARIN receiving a 
    request directly from an authorized contact representing an entity that 
    ARIN is able to validate. Organization records shall not be created upon 
    the request of third-parties.

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