[arin-tech-discuss] Multiple simple reassigns to a single customer?

[David Huberman]

Hello Heather,

ARIN is hosting an ARIN Online Users Forum at the joint NANOG/ARIN meeting
in Philadelphia. The Forum is scheduled for 6pm the evening of Tuesday, 11
October 2011. This would be a great idea to bring to that Forum!

Regards,
David

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David R Huberman
ARIN Technical Specialist
(703) 227-9866







On 9/16/11 1:43 PM, "Schiller, Heather A" <heather.schiller at verizon.com>
wrote:


Yuck.. The solution is to either generate multiple reassign simple records
with no way to tie the 'organization'/customer to other records - or for
everybody to generate separate "Real OrgIDs" and you have the same
problem.. Of not being able to easily correlate records for the same
company.

Wouldn't it be ideal to have companies obtain a single org id from ARIN -
with ARIN doing some checking to see if they already have an ORG ID - and
then the company gives that ORG id to their provider.  I don't think this
is any more outrageous than requesting companies provide their TIN when
they request resources from ARIN.

--Heather

-----Original Message-----
From: arin-tech-discuss-bounces at arin.net
[mailto:arin-tech-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of David Huberman
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 1:36 PM
To: Aaron Hughes; ARIN Tech
Subject: Re: [arin-tech-discuss] Multiple simple reassigns to a single
customer?

Hello Aaron,

Customer org records may only have one reassignment. Why?
It's a database constraint from the Whois model that's been in use since
2002.  With the recent development of ARIN's RESTful API, there are
opportunities for us to re-work the database schema to allow multiple
assignments to customer org records -- opportunities which didn't exist
prior to March 2011.  The staff here would like to make that happen. Such
a change, however, is major in scope, and is expensive. It is not
presently on the schedule of software development.  It is our hope we will
perform this change in the future.

Process-wise, there are two methods I can think of:

- if you're using simple reassignments, then you create a customer org
record every time you reassign a distinct block of IP addresses.

- if you're planning on multiple assignments to the same customer, you
have the option of using the CREATE RECIPIENT ORG method, and doing a
detailed reassignment to the OrgID.  Real OrgIDs can have an unlimited
number of IP address blocks and AS numbers.

Regards,


David


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David R Huberman
ARIN Technical Specialist
(703) 227-9866







On 9/16/11 1:25 PM, "Aaron Hughes" <aaronh at bind.com> wrote:

I thought the process was:
1) Create a customer record
2) reassign simple
if additional assignments needed:
	1) select stored arin_cust_id
	2) reassign to same arin_cust_id

But.. This is the response I get from the server when I attempt to simple
reassign a second block:

What is the expected behavior and process?

Cheers,
Aaron

(
    [additionalInfo] => SimpleXMLElement Object
        (
        )

    [code] => E_ENTITY_VALIDATION
    [components] => SimpleXMLElement Object
        (
            [component] => SimpleXMLElement Object
                (
                    [message] => This customer organization already has a
network assigned to it. You may only sub-delegate one simple reassignment
per customer organization.
                    [name] => customerHandle
                )

        )

    [message] => Payload entity failed to validate; see component messages
for details.
)

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