[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2025-1: Clarify ISP and LIR Definitions and References to Address Ambiguity in NRPM Text

[John Santos]

If having a new name with no baggage would help, maybe something like "Delegated 
Resource Registry" would work.


On 9/17/2025 6:35 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:13 PM David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
>> I think you are referring to National Internet Registries (NIRs),
>> which are not called Local Internet Registries (LIRs) and are
>> not confused with LIRs.
> Hi David,
>
> Either way the point remains: sub-registries in the other regions are
> not inherently expected to be the operators of the infrastructure
> services with which those IP addresses are used. ARIN has some gray
> area on the subject, but the rule to which exceptions apply is that
> your IP addresses are either coming from your network provider or
> directly from ARIN, not a different party altogether. ARIN is not a
> LIR and the "registry" terminology for your network provider is a poor
> fit. If anyone hates the "ISP" terminology, I respectfully ask them to
> suggest a better phrase, not a worse one.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>
>
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John Santos
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.