[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2025-4: Resource Issuance to Natural Persons

[Martin Hannigan]

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On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 15:02 <hostmaster at uneedus.com> wrote:

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> On Tue, 20 May 2025, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML wrote:
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> >       On May 20, 2025, at 11:39, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
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> > On Tue, 20 May 2025, 9:23 pm Owen DeLong, <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> > Several possibilities…
> >
> > 1. Some successor takes over operating their network and takes
> > on the “organization”. In such a case, presumably ARIN would
> > need a process for an organizational name change. (I think this
> > is an operational, not policy matter).
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> >
> > Is the policy targeting humans or organizations?
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> >
> > The policy is targeting humans, but the statement above applies equally
> to
> > humans or organizations in the event an organization ceases.
> >
> > For example, Exodus went bankrupt and was subsumed into Cable and
> Wireless…
> > Cable and Wireless became the successor and took over Exodus’
> relationship
> > with ARIN, paid their resource fees and operation of their network.
> >
> >             2. The network ceases operations, and either by
> >             notification to ARIN or through non-payment, ARIN
> >             reclaims the resources.
> >
> >
> > But the person is deceased?
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> >
> > Yes, that was the premise we started with, the question was “what happens
> > when the person dies”.
> >
> > So yes, all of my answers were possible outcomes after the person dies.
> >
> >
> >
> > 3. The estate transfers the resources under section 8 of the
> > NRPM.
> >
> >
> > So in their Will they will have to include information related to IP
> > addresses in ARIN records associated to them .... as part of their
> > property?
> >
> >
> > Either in their will or through other probate process(es).
> >
> > Owen
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> Most likely the network resources will go to the same people that receive
> the computers, routers and other network gear associated with the
> resources.
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> Honestly, not much different process than the example corporate network
> pass on cited above.  Many people that run companies will have language in
> their will allowing their business to continue to be operated while any
> probate processes take place.
>
> Does anyone know when the current language not allowing natural persons
> was adopted, and some dates involved?  Would love to look at the
> discussion from then to see if there is anything discussed then that might
> influence our decision now.
>
> Albert Erdmann
> Network Administrator
> Paradise On Line Inc.
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