[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2025-4: Resource Issuance to Natural Persons

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Tue May 20 15:01:11 EDT 2025



On Tue, 20 May 2025, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML wrote:

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>       On May 20, 2025, at 11:39, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
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> On Tue, 20 May 2025, 9:23 pm Owen DeLong, <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> Several possibilities…
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> 1. Some successor takes over operating their network and takes
> on the “organization”. In such a case, presumably ARIN would
> need a process for an organizational name change. (I think this
> is an operational, not policy matter). 
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> Is the policy targeting humans or organizations?
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> The policy is targeting humans, but the statement above applies equally to
> humans or organizations in the event an organization ceases.
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> For example, Exodus went bankrupt and was subsumed into Cable and Wireless…
> Cable and Wireless became the successor and took over Exodus’ relationship
> with ARIN, paid their resource fees and operation of their network.
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>             2. The network ceases operations, and either by
>             notification to ARIN or through non-payment, ARIN
>             reclaims the resources. 
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> But the person is deceased? 
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> Yes, that was the premise we started with, the question was “what happens
> when the person dies”.
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> So yes, all of my answers were possible outcomes after the person dies.
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> 3. The estate transfers the resources under section 8 of the
> NRPM.
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> So in their Will they will have to include information related to IP
> addresses in ARIN records associated to them .... as part of their
> property?
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> Either in their will or through other probate process(es).
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> Owen
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Most likely the network resources will go to the same people that receive 
the computers, routers and other network gear associated with the 
resources.

Honestly, not much different process than the example corporate network 
pass on cited above.  Many people that run companies will have language in 
their will allowing their business to continue to be operated while any 
probate processes take place.

Does anyone know when the current language not allowing natural persons 
was adopted, and some dates involved?  Would love to look at the 
discussion from then to see if there is anything discussed then that might 
influence our decision now.

Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.


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