[arin-ppml] Revised - ARIN-2024-10: Registration Requirements and Timing of Requirements With Retirement of Section 4.2.3.7.2

[David Farmer]

On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 2:03 PM William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 5:11 PM David Farmer via ARIN-PPML
> <arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:
> > While I’m willing to be convinced otherwise, I see no compelling
> > reason to change from 7 to 14 days. I’m not strongly opposed to
> > 14 days. But if no one is willing to make a first-person argument
> > supporting the change to 14 days, then why make the change?
>
>
> Hi David,
>
> Devil's advocate: 7 days means the IP address manager who isn't
> updating ARIN records with automation can't take a normal vacation. 14
> days is enough for someone to get their sunburn and then return and
> process the backlog.
>
> I have no dog in this fight, but as noted: staff reports some
> organizations having trouble with the 7-day period who would be
> satisfied with a 14-day period. While the information's anonymity
> reduces its weight, does that mean we should disregard it entirely?
>

I agree, which is why I'm not strongly opposed to it.

In fact, when this first came up, I proposed 14 or 21 days as an
alternative to the indefinite time period proposed. In my opinion,
an indefinite time period would be unacceptable.

However, all I have heard as justification or in support for this proposal
is, "Staff have had complaints about 7 days", or "other people might need
this, and here is why ... but I don't."

So, all I'm asking is for someone to say they need or want this. Not that
someone else needs or wants it. The point being, if it is not important
enough for anyone to speak directly in support of it, then is it really
important enough for us to do it?

The problem we need to avoid is making this change simply because we think
people want it, only to have them continue to complain to staff that 14
days isn't enough time, either.

Thanks.

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