<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 2:03 PM William Herrin <<a href="mailto:bill@herrin.us" target="_blank">bill@herrin.us</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 5:11 PM David Farmer via ARIN-PPML<br>
<<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> While I’m willing to be convinced otherwise, I see no compelling<br>
> reason to change from 7 to 14 days. I’m not strongly opposed to<br>
> 14 days. But if no one is willing to make a first-person argument<br>
> supporting the change to 14 days, then why make the change?<br>
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Hi David,<br>
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Devil's advocate: 7 days means the IP address manager who isn't<br>
updating ARIN records with automation can't take a normal vacation. 14<br>
days is enough for someone to get their sunburn and then return and<br>
process the backlog.<br>
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I have no dog in this fight, but as noted: staff reports some<br>
organizations having trouble with the 7-day period who would be<br>
satisfied with a 14-day period. While the information's anonymity<br>
reduces its weight, does that mean we should disregard it entirely?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I agree, which is why I'm not strongly opposed to it. </div><div><br></div><div>In fact, when this first came up, I proposed 14 or 21 days as an alternative to the indefinite time period proposed. In my opinion, an indefinite time period would be unacceptable. </div><div><br></div><div>However, all I have heard as justification or in support for this proposal is, "Staff have had complaints about 7 days", or "other people might need this, and here is why ... but I don't."</div><div><br></div><div>So, all I'm asking is for someone to say they need or want this. Not that someone else needs or wants it. The point being, if it is not important enough for anyone to speak directly in support of it, then is it really important enough for us to do it?</div><div><br></div><div>The problem we need to avoid is making this change simply because we think people want it, only to have them continue to complain to staff that 14 days isn't enough time, either.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">===============================================<br>David Farmer <a href="mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu" target="_blank">Email:farmer@umn.edu</a><br>Networking & Telecommunication Services<br>Office of Information Technology<br>University of Minnesota <br>2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815<br>Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952<br>=============================================== </div></div>
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